cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/108276
There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.
Alleged previous attempt: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sM4y1H7MX/
Why is news a tiktok video???
Because china. Pushing Chinese services. For a Chinese release.
I think we’re going to see the claims on this material fully validated. I’ve seen enough evidence so far to suggest that the inconsistencies/ failures to replicate are due to the difficulties in production, not the material itself. And sure, those difficulties are well, difficult. But that’s really quite secondary to the discovery so long as it replicates. Those engineering questions will be solved in time.
It seems that room temperature superconduction is, well, a thing.
This material will probably never make a difference to the everyday person. The discovery that lead to this material will help produce better materials that will change our everyday lives.
The first lightbulb was well refined before being sold in large. Almost every major discovery affects few people. It’s the subsequent discoveries that affect our lives
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Are you saying the lightbulb has only helped few people? Are you saying the lightbulb was not a major discovery?
The lightbulb changed the world and affected billions. The transistor changed the world and affected bullions. A room temperature superconductor likely will as well.
I think they’re saying the earliest invented lightbulb didn’t help the majority, it was the later mass produced in our daily lives model that did.
I don’t know shit about earliest lightbulbs, so I don’t know if that analogy really works tho.
I meant more so that the first lightbulb didn’t. It had to go through changes and be refined to actually be usable. Maybe a lightbulb wasn’t the best example, but the concept is that the initial discovery is not usually impactful to most people but the inventions those discoveries lead to are whats important to the everyday person. The superconductor has multiple issues, and I doubt this material will find its way in anything in our lives. But if opens a new avenue of research which will lead to other materials which will find their ways into our lives.
Of course the first light bulb didn’t change the world, but it paved the way. It was the start. This could be the same thing.
I desperately want this to be true… it could change everything
So many potential advances. Could quantum computing become more easily accessible if thermal load is a non issue? Could renewable become more viable if they don’t lose as much energy to travel?
Could its discovery propel high speed rail into the future?! Hoverboard?!
At this point I’m assuming all this is fake until we see something from a reputable source.
Sorry but i just dont believe it. Chinese researchers fake way too much. I would believe that this is diamagnetic but not superconducting.
Except it’s by Korean researchers
Except the top comment on the Hacknernews thread suggests otherwise.
Edit for reply that won’t post otherwise:
It is absolutely laughable to assume that Chinese researchers wouldn’t forge a discovery for financial gain. Millions, if not Billions, have flooded into companies who are even adjacent to cutting edge superconductor manufacturing in just this week since the first news broke of LK-99. They are putting themselves in the running for hundreds of millions of investment dollars. And if they so cared for the process they would submit to a proper peer review before attempting to post “proof” of anything on a TikTok-esque video platform.
This particular replication attempt appears to be Chinese, yes. But it makes no sense for Chinese researchers to be deliberately faking the replication of some unrelated Korean scientists’ supposed fraud (which makes no sense to be fraud in the first place). What could they possibly gain from it aside from the ruination of their own reputations as well?
I could believe that LK-99 is not actually truly classically superconductive, but instead has a bunch of weird properties that suckered its creators into thinking it was. It seems unlikely but eh, maybe. Weird things pop out of the universe sometimes. But it’s really implausible that this is all a deliberate fraud. If you’re going to make fraudulent claims about inventing a new kind of superconductor the last thing you’d make up is something that anyone can make for themselves with a few basic ingredients and a pottery kiln. That ultra-high-pressure room temperature superconductor is the perfect counterpoint - it was so hard to replicate that it took ages to show it was fake.
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So the video that is posted is from the Wuhan university in Korea huh.
This is a reproduction attempt by a Chinese team in China.
The original product was produced by a Korean team in Korea.
For this to be fraudulent both the Chinese and Korean teams would have to have made stuff up, and Korea scientists don’t have a history of lying. Why would they, make plenty of advanced tech all on their own legitimately.
