Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.
Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.
Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.
Oh Google.
A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit
Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That’s the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.
Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.
While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers
I live Valve, but there’s always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn’t help
Dolphin isn’t really their fault though. That all comes down to the developers and Nintendo. The outcome sucks either way
No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn’t asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing
Nintendo is required by law to do something or else they run the risk of losing their trademarks.
It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn’t so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn’t win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.
Nintendo sent them a DMCA takedown request for the Dolphin Steam page. So I don’t think we can blame Steam for wanting to stay out of legal trouble
No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.
What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn’t want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam
Sorry, I just heard somewhere Nintendo sent a DMCA notice and assumed it was right because that seems like a Nintendo thing to do.
Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.
That’s likely in part due to the fact that they’d really like to he publicly traded.
There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren’t the (only) beneficiaries.
'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.
We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.
Now it all sucks.
Google didn’t have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.
since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
That bit reminded me that my mom had a desktop application that takes messages for you when we were using the dial up.
Pornhub taught me I’m picky af
Pornhub taught me people like incest. Maybe it’s related to game of thrones?
It is just mindless pursuit of the forbidden for algorithm cheering reasons. And then you need to have had hot sisters to lust after growing up. With so many one children families you end up with a relatively small proportion of the population that could even care.
On the other hand, adding one incest adjacent keywords to the title, if it means 3% more clicks they’ll do it
I mean, we all know all those step-siblings (or actual siblings) videos are pure bullshit, but you’re right, it seems they attract some serious clicks. Or so I’ve been told.
Those click could be superstition about algorithm. I often click on them, it’s not because the word “step” but the word is there anyway. Porn sites aren’t sophisticated enough by and large to do proper a/b testing and find out if the word step make want difference. Especially when the actual content doesn’t even play with the incest concept itself.
I get you, but you can’t deny that “genre” still is a huge hook, also anime is full of that shit (the whole “they’re not actually blood related” bs lmao).
I don’t know, for me it feels chasing the forbidden for forbiddenness’ sake. The biggest clue to that is how the actual content does really do anything with what the title promises. It doesn’t change what’s on screen
Pornhub prob made you picky. Be less picky it’s great.
If it’s not underwater trans midget porn, I’m not interested
Indeed, indeed.
Picky is a weird way of saying normal. Just because you’re straight doesn’t mean you’re picky if you don’t like trans or gay stuff.
All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.
To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers
Free in software should stand for freedom, not money. We need better ways for financing such software projects and creators making content on them.
Yeah free as in freedom not as in price.
The closest anyone’s come to a mechanism that would allow efficient financing of public goods like free software is quadratic funding. Unfortunately, there are unsolved issues with collusion and identity verification
If it were possible, I’d like to continually donate a given sum of money to an account that split the proceeds between the content creators and the people hosting. Granted, while I’m unemployed, the best I can do currently would be to donate hosting directly
This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a “brand”.
Had to come the commie of the area 😅
Money doesn’t fall from trees, if you’re not paying a service they must be making money from somewhere else.
Why’s everything gotta be about money? Good things happen without it. Rain falls, feeds a fruit tree, makes a fruit, I eat it, poop out the seeds, new fruit tree grows. Money doesn’t fall from trees, but I can’t eat money.
The whole system is poorly prioritized to protect people’s things instead of people. Even then it does a poor job and only protects the things that belong to those with the most things. It’s not even about those people, just their wealth, because if somebody else got their wealth no one would care about them anymore.
I don’t care about communists or capitalists or any ists you can name. To hell with Mao and Thatcher and Lenin and Reagan and Trump and Biden. Fuck em. My question is why can we always find money for war, and for rich people to do stupid shit, but never enough for health care, or food for hungry children, or anything like that. Fuck anybody okay with hungry babies.
Eating and apple and pooping out the seeds might grow new trees, but none of those trees are likely to make apples like you ate.
Money is a convenient way to trade your work or skills for someone else’s. Like the guy who grafts apple tree scions together to make the apples that taste good grow in their orchard.
Now when the guy who knows how to grow hood apple trees decides he doesn’t want to compete against anybody else’s apples and squashes them, we have problems, and need rules to keep that from happening.
I like how you equated money as a goal to money as a tool and that because the latter is a good idea then the first one must also be a good idea.
I found this list of true-to-seed fruits and vegetables I thought you might find interesting. I found it on The Spruce.
Certain heirloom apples, such as Antonovka
Polyembryonic mango seeds
Lemon
Lime
Orange
Peach
Papaya
Apricot
Nectarine
Heirloom tomatoes
There are tons of other heirloom vegetables, I don’t know why they only mentioned tomatoes on their list but yeah.
haha silly commie. if there’s no money, where you gonna get your money?
Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general. Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they’ll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they’ll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won’t have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they’re created and you won’t be able to support them cause you basically doesn’t own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported. Your ideas give big tech power, you’re not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.
Wow man, bet you think it’s the LGBTs fault too and that the EU is some leftist place with less freedom than the US.
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
ouch, right in the freedom 😁
I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.
Don’t bother. Everything has a watermark on it now.
Which generation? Im 36 and i was definitely raised online.
Gen Z (most likely)
Like they say, if it’s free you’re the product.
Even if its extremely pricey mmmhhmm apple
As far as I know Apple doesn’t use your data. But could be wrong
They only* use it against you when your phone stops working.
*that I we know of.
Hm what do you mean about that?
We recently had trouble with the voicemail on a phone, and when we were talking to apple support over the phone, they mentioned that our phone had recently overheated but that wouldn’t have caused the problem. It was in the sun on our dashboard for a few minutes a week or 2 before.
I wonder if that type of data could also be going into your interest rates if you apply for an Apple Card. Same with battery levels and drop events. I know that Chinese loan apps mine that data when approving loans, but don’t know if apple would use that data.
Unless you just want some furry porn
One of these things is not like the others.
Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one
Shame you need an account now to download the old cursor packs and stuff
Sadly even with furry porn, still a product. They forced everyone to be in some art AI dataset, it’s quite the downfall
i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE
Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.
OR you can use piped to watch youtube videos
Or Invidious.
ReVanced checking in!
It’s buggy on occasion, but it works!
i do use newpipe and clipious from time to time
on computers sure on mobile well it works
Android, Firefox, uBlock Origin and Background Play Fix. Never going back.
Adblock extension + saferi.
Even works in the background and with locked screen
WHY THE HECK IS NOBODY TAKING NOTE OF ME SAYING I USE REVANCED
Jokes aside, revanced is cool AF. It has sponsorblock, dislikes and additional share buttons. Such an amazing app.
Yes it is fucking cool and stuff, but iPhone users can’t use revanced or do they?
Because I sure as heck’d use it!
if I’d have a ipad id use it as a drawing tablet if i had an apple pencil too otherwise to the bin
You can install desktop extensions on Kiwi browser.
eat shit bitch nobody was talking about chromium
I used to do that but I realized content creators don’t get paid if I do that so I subscribed to Premium.
Just pay to remove the ads
That makes the privacy issues with YouTube worse. They can link your YouTube watch history with your identity
They can already do that without paying
Not if you use anonymizing software
Honestly agreed. I hate that we don’t have a good open alternative to YT, but as long as you can afford it buying premium seems like a decent alternative.
@normalmighty @RagingRobot, well, you can use front-ends like CloudTube, Invidious instances, Piped or an Desktop client like FreeTube.
You can also watch YouTube sandboxed searching the video with Andisearch and viewing it in the search results.Sure I could but I could also just pay $8 or whatever it is and the creators that I watch get a small portion of the money. I like them tracking the videos I watch so that I can look back and find the ones I liked.
I’d love to subscribe to premium, but in my country they have disabled it. It is basically not possible to remove ads even when I want to pay, lmao. So, duck them, give me my vanced/revanced
revanced
Lemmy is great but the majority of you guys have a, r/notlikeothergirls vibe.
Like you know something about the world and by saying, “I am not mainstream I am alternative,” you are making yourselves inclusive in some way. You don’t know anything the rest of the world doesn’t already have some idea about. Some sort of secret knowledge. I think my favorite thing I have seen on here is people thinking they are private and secure on the Fediverse. Despite the fact you are on a self hosted instance of someone’s hardware and handing your privacy and security to someone random or an entity at random.
Being inclusive is not how you educate people. It’s how you isolate your knowledge and make people think you are a jerk.
Lemmy attracts this FOSS/linux/firefox/self-hosted or die mentality because the biggest jump in Lemmy users came from a corporation messing with a product they liked
Which is good.
Without “die hard” FOSS people we wouldn’t have Lemmy, Linux, Apache, Firefox etc etc etc. I mean, dont shit where you eat I guess I what I want to say.
You’re a real man, could you check my profile?
I reviewed your profile. Personal opinion. You have some personal growing to do.
It feels like you are a 14 yo edgy person watching too much right wing echo chambers.
It’s just a big mess.
People like me are the black sheep among thousands of white sheeps, between lefties and boomers. I could only be in an eco chamber if I was literally schizophrenic. Right-wing people have to deal with woke every day it’s just impossible to ignore it.
Lol sure buddy, you’re all different from … checks notes … 2 whole groups of people.
You sure should get out and around a bit.
The “bAd wOkE” is literally made up by the far right, and I see you identify with them, so much for the lone rebel lol.
Yes, anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a far right extremist.
You’re really taking the discussion to seventh heaven.
Someone’s underestimating the age of the internet.
Yeah but…ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren’t “raised” online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid’s school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn’t needed a pencil and paper in…I forgot how long.
If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
This is why I always insist that the cutoff between millenial and Gen Z is 1995. There’s a pretty obvious generational split along this topic and 1995 seems to be the birth year of the divide
Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.
Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for “raised online” as being “digital native” then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.
The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn’t remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life
I am sorry to disappoint but people born in 2003 would be either 19 or 20 years old now. I know that it is hard to accept getting old.
I am bad at math
People are so quick to forget. Back when Netflix came out it’s appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn’t on TV yet, smart TVs weren’t a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. “Why would I pay for that”. No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.
Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.
Are you high? Netflix wasn’t online, it was DVDs through the mail that you kept until you were ready for new ones. After its online became far more popular than the legacy service, people were still pissed when they announced they were going to stop the DVD mail, even when they stopped using that original service.
I think it’s sort of implied that the time period I’m referring to is when Netflix shifted it’s attention to the online service.
And what I’m saying is still valid. I remember my father scoffing at Netflix because he didn’t think it could compete with traditional TV.
I had a mythtv box with 1000 movies, 10s of thousands of TV episodes just so much stuff and a computer in every tv in the house. You could rewind live tv and skip ads. Most family members never switched the tv input to the mythtv box. The two that used it asked after two weeks, is there anything new?
One of these things is not like the other…
DeviantArt really caught me off guard… lol
Vine taught me you’re worthless unless you’re making someone else money.
Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy
