• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m with you on the rest, but swearing never hurt anyone and continuing to pretend otherwise in 2024 is some 1980s Satanic Panic sized bullshit.

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      10 months ago

      It’s still probably not best to not model disrespectful and irreverent language to impressionable kids until they learn the social skills of when it is and isn’t appropriate. I don’t want Bluey to tell her dad to “Fuck off wanker”

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        10 months ago

        disrespectful and irreverent language

        No word (other than hate speech) is inherently disrespectful. Disrespect comes from context, not vocabulary.

        As for being irreverent, that’s almost always a positive since being overly reverent is a toxic symptom of authoritarianism.

        I don’t want Bluey to tell her dad to “Fuck off wanker”

        Depending on context and tone, that could be completely fine.

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          10 months ago

          I agree with you mostly. And censoring swears from media aimed at children, doesn’t prevent kids from wanting to experiment with the taboo. But I’d rather have children’s media model good behavior, and while swearing isn’t always profane or disrespectful, it often is. And being able to differentiate the context is a learned social skill that kids won’t master until that kind of content is appropriate.

          This last quote really has nothing to do with my argument but I just like it. “Profanity is the linguistic crutch of inarticulate fuckheads”. I want to teach my children to articulate themselves well and save the profane for when it makes the most impact.

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        10 months ago

        Prepared to get downvoted my friend, according to some lemmings, you should have atleast 1 swear word every sentence, and if you say otherwise you are violating ‘freedom of speech’

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      10 months ago

      Well you don’t want kids always swearing left right and center either, I don’t know to how much extent banning videos with f words for kids help but I (no joke) never heard of any (big) swear words by my parents or on my phone, and it does help me in formal situations unlike some of my friends, No one is gonna call you out for dropping a mother F bomb in front of a professor but it’s definitely not ideal.

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        Kids should be taught the difference between swearing and disrespectful swearing. My parents brought me up to never swear, even though I eventually learned the words and not to swear around them. It’s inevitable that kids will learn swear words but if you completely ignore the problem as a parent, that’s how rampant and disrespectful swearing starts.

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        10 months ago

        you don’t want kids always swearing left right and center either

        Yeah I do. That would be much better than needlessly censoring the free expression of them and others based on 1950s notions of propriety 🤷

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              10 months ago

              Well I am not gonna start an argument about whether swearing is morally acceptable or not on the internet.

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                10 months ago

                Because there IS no argument for your side other than logical fallacies such as appeal to authority and the like.

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                  10 months ago

                  No I am not gonna argue because I don’t give a fuck about what some random stranger’s thoughts on swearing are, you are trying to have one here, You can do whatever you want, I swear as well, but only when I need to give some extra weight to my statement, it’s just that you are painting your opinion as the absolute truth, when really this sort of issue depends upon a person’s beliefs and personality, there are no ‘facts’ here like you are trying here to say

                  How about I say that I am gonna drive a plane into a building, I could say in my defense that ‘It is freedom of expression’, but I will surely get in trouble and for good reason, I want you to prove logically with facts and statistics that swearing is better, then maybe I will change my opinion