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Tech companies argued in comments on the website that the way their models ingested creative content was innovative and legal. The venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, which has several investments in A.I. start-ups, warned in its comments that any slowdown for A.I. companies in consuming content “would upset at least a decade’s worth of investment-backed expectations that were premised on the current understanding of the scope of copyright protection in this country.”

underneath the screenshot is the “Oh no! Anyway” meme, featuring two pictures of Jeremy Clarkson saying “Oh no!” and “Anyway”

screenshot (copied from this mastodon post) is of a paragraph of the NYT article “The Sleepy Copyright Office in the Middle of a High-Stakes Clash Over A.I.

  • LavaPlanet@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Piracy / stealing content is ok for big corps Piracy / stealing content punishable by life in prison for us proletarians

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      10 months ago

      This is simply not stealing. Viewing content has never ever ever been stealing.

      There is no view right.

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        10 months ago

        Tech illiterate guy here. All these Ml models require training data, right? So all these AI companies that develop new ML based chat/video/image apps require data. So where exactly do they? It can’t be that their entire dataset is licensed, isn’t it?

        If so, are there any firms that are using these orgs for data theft? How to know if the model has been trained on your data? Sorry if this is not the right place to ask.

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          10 months ago

          You know how you look at a pic on the internet and don’t pay? The AI is basically doing the same thing only it’s collecting the effect of the data points ( like pixels in a picture) more accurately. The input no matter what it is only moves a set of weights. That’s all. It does not copy anything it is trained on.

          Yes it can reproduce with some level of accuracy any work just like a painter or musician could replay a piece they see or hear.

          Again, this is not theft any more than u hearing a Song or viewing a selfie.

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            10 months ago

            only it’s collecting the effect of the data points ( like pixels in a picture) more accurately

            Isn’t that the entire point of creativity. though? What separates an artist from a bad painter is the positioning of pixels on a 2-Dimensional plane? If the model collects the positions of pixels together with the pixel RGB (color? Don’t know the technical term for it), then the model is effectively stealing the “pixel configuration and makeup” of that artist which can be reproduced by the said model anywhere if similar prompts were passed to it?

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        10 months ago

        Could say piracy is just running a program that “views” the content, and then regurgitates its own interpretation of it into local data stores.

        It’s just not very creative, so it’s usually very close.

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          10 months ago

          You could say that but you’d be wrong.downloading is a bitwise copy. Training isn’t even close to the same thing.

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    10 months ago

    That’s the point about money, if you have enough you can simply sue or bribe in order to not lose money.

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    10 months ago

    A’ight. Time to self host the entire of the internet in a server and do machine learning with the content I stored. :)