Sony misses PS5 sales target as console enters ‘latter stage of its life cycle’::Sony has cut its sales forecast by 4 million units for the fiscal year, down from 25 million to 21 million. It comes as the company missed its sales projections by a million.

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        10 months ago

        Fair but thats your choice to upgrade. No one says you have to, and they don’t lock games behind needing insert current gen CPU or gpu

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          Your choice to upgrade just your GPU for as much or more than the entire cost of a PS5 as frequent or more frequently than you’d need to buy a new PS5.

          As an avid PC gamer and PlayStation enjoyer, part of the console appeal is being able to drop a relatively small amount of money (compared to a gaming PC) on a single console and then you just don’t have to worry about upgrades or the performance of games for like 6+ years. There are a lot of us long time computer nerds that are just tired of unoptimized trash or new technologies making our rigs outdated in as little as a year or two.

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            There’s also the simplicity. I enjoy my PC for sure but for some people the ease of popping in a disc or downloading the title and it running perfectly on the first try is a major selling point. Troubleshooting my Ex’s PC for 2 hours only to realise I didn’t install the standoffs is an experience I can’t get on console.

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              Troubleshooting my Ex’s PC for 2 hours only to realise I didn’t install the standoffs is an experience I can’t get on console.

              Hey, have some faith in yourself! I’m sure you can fuck up your console hardware just as well as your ex’s PC!

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              Oh yeah 100%. If I want to play the latest casual open world adventure game, I don’t want to spend time trying to figure out why I’m having mysterious frame rate dips. Do I need new drivers? Is the game poorly optimized? Is it a bug? Is their V-sync implementation broken? Is it an issue with my specific graphics card vendor so I’m SOL? Is it a thermal issue? Let’s spend all Saturday figuring it out.

              Or just buy it on PS5 and it just works.

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            more frequently is very far from the truth. only if you want the latest and greatest just for the sake of it, but you dont actually need ultra 4k graphics at 200fps.

            my friend still has a gtx960, all modern titles run fine. my 2070 will last me at least 4 more years easily. my rig is more than 2 years old and theres nothing wrong with it at all.

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              Oh it’s the truth my friend. I have a rig with a GTX 1660 and it does not run modern games well at all. You can forget 4k 200fps, just 1080p and a stable 60 is more often than not too much to ask for. It absolutely does not keep up with the PS5 that is only a year newer and half the price. A lot of new releases are almost completely unplayable at this point but I can download the newest launch games on PS5 and know I’m getting the best experience.

              PCs have a much higher quality and performance ceilings if you want to spend thousands, but the days of PC gaming being the platform for best value to performance are long over. Trying to buy a modest gaming PC that lasts you 5+ years is an exercise in frustration.

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                My brother in christ, the GTX1660 is a mid/low tier card from 5ish years ago. It also precedes and is inferior to the GPU in a PS5 by a loooooooooong shot. My 2070 is about as powerful as a PS5 and my experience is high graphics by default without issues every time.

                That said, I’m struggling to believe you can’t run games well. I play games regularly with someone who has a mobile 1650. A GTX960 can run literally all modern stuff with settings turned down, incl. Cyberpunk. Is a PS4 packing this much punch today? Nah.

                It obviously isn’t like it was 10yrs ago but its very much still cheaper in the long run if you don’t mind that a 5yr old GPU can’t play things at max settings anymore (just like consoles, btw!)

                If you tell me you built your rig in the pandemic/bitcoin era It’ll make much more sense to me.

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                  My point exactly. This particular rig was built the year the PS5 came out. It was the current generation at the time and it cost twice as much as the PS5 despite having a GPU that was, in your words “inferior to the GPU in a PS5 by a looooooooong shot”.

                  You’re literally comparing your 2070 to the PS5 saying it’s “just as powerful” as a PS5 despite the fact that the cost of the 2070 alone is the exact same price as the entire ps5. Including the controller.

                  Despite my 1660 TI rig’s cost being twice that of a PS5, the 1660 as you mentioned struggles to play modern games unless the graphics are turned way, way, down and even then you’re often times shit out of luck. My PS5 that is the same age packs one hell of a punch still and plays any new game that comes out with fantastic graphics and a solid 60fps.

                  The PC is a great platform if you have fuck you money and have $2000 for a GPU alone. That’ll get you a machine that lasts. But the “pandemic/bitcoin” era never ended. Prices have come down, but the days of affordability and value are gone and aren’t coming back.

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    Aside from the Switch, which just quietly prints money, this generation of consoles feels like a huge failure.

    The Xbox launch was so bad I couldn’t tell you what the latest Xbox is called, and the PS5 had its hype during a global pandemic, and seemingly couldn’t bother to release games during that period.

    While the “latter stage” could basically mean 4-5 years, I don’t really see what the big rush is. Let 2020-2022 be a write-off, and focus on getting some fucking games out! I have a PS5, but purely because I got it as a gift. All of my games, aside from one, are PS4 games.

    Obviously, there will be some big names that’ll likely come out during this time. We’ll likely see a new COD game, GTA6, ideally a new GOW came, and FF7’s latest part. With that being said, 2024 is extremely underwhelming for games.

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    10 months ago

    They’ve barely released any PS5 exclusive games. This feels like a massive ripoff.