• De_Narm@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It can be the least predatory mtx system ever, being in a paid game is still not acceptable and I’ll die on that hill. Never bought anything with a shop or battle pass and won’t start now.

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      9 months ago

      You can literally earn all the credits you need to buy out the store just from playing.

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        9 months ago

        Having the option to use real money is the problem. Nothing is stopping them from adding more and more expensive stuff until you cannot grind it anymore. That’s how we went free cosmetics to 60+ bucks for skins.

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          Nothing is stopping anyone from making something predatory from some angle at some time. You’re just slippery sloping this.

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      9 months ago

      To each their own, but I think this is a bit extremist. Life isn’t black and white. Free games with mtx can be good or bad, paid games without can be good or bad.

      Just not buying solely because it has a shop/battle pass means you miss out on a lot of games where it has zero meaning and you’re not allowing any nuanced discussion to happen on the issue.

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      Unpopular opinion but I think it’s acceptable as long as its optional especially as multiplayer game where they are hosting servers. Those aren’t cheap and I don’t have the game so I wouldn’t know but if they do release more multiplayer content for free, I think it’s further justification because that’s better than paid content packs. As an example, CoD on PC had a recurring issue of DLC content being useless since too little people would buy them. Titanfall saw this issue as well and it was even worse due to the smaller player base. So with Titanfall 2 they just made it free and added cosmetics microtransactions that were actually reasonably priced.

      Maybe this is not the solution for everything but as long as it has no bearing on gameplay what’s the harm? If you’re not one to spend on microtransactions then you only get the benefits. I don’t think a more benign implementation should be criticised just because we fear the potential of it potentially becoming worse.

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      9 months ago

      I still can’t look past the rootkit anticheat for a goddamn co-op game.

      This is probably pissing into the wind, but that isn’t what “rootkit” means in this context.

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        Unfortunately you can’t get through to these people. They refuse to accept that rootkit as a security concept isn’t just an admin level process that can be hijacked, but a specifically malicious bundle of programs that embeds itself in your firmware and runs in secret.

        The anticheat isn’t running secretly, as the game informs you of its use and requirement. It also doesn’t access your MoBo firmware or UEFI, merely the kernel of the OS.

        No one with even the bare minimum Sec+ cert would call it a rootkit, and only those with no actual knowledge take that claim seriously.

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          No one with even the bare minimum Sec+ cert would call it a rootkit

          That’s what it’s page on wikipedia says.

          nProtect GameGuard (sometimes called GG) is an anti-cheating rootkit developed by INCA Internet.

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            Oh damn wikipedia, that’s never been edited by someone with an agenda before. Go look up the dictionary/CompTIA definition of a rootkit, not what some FOSS bro edited the wiki page to be.

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    9 months ago

    nope. game is good, but i’m not interested in the ingame store.

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      9 months ago

      You can find supercredits on missions. I’ve unlocked the premium battlepass and bought some armor without spending a dime of real money.

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        Yeah I know, still not interested in any battlepasses, never was. I usually quit as soon as any game start their “Season of the…” crap and return to my evergreen Guild Wars 2.

        I also got me a decent looking outfit already and the stats fit my playstyle, so I’m pretty much playing the game for fun now with no interest in any additional unlocks besides stratagems and ship upgrades.

        Lol the downvotes…

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          Ah I get you. Just so you know, the battlepasses are more like level unlocks than typical battlepasses, but you probably know that. Also, old battlepasses that you didn’t finish or even start will stay in the game permanently, so don’t feel like there’s a rush to finish them.

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          You are not using war bonds? I’m very confused. This is how you unlock more gear and you don’t have to pay for anything.

          Also all of their war bond passes stay with you forever, you don’t have to finish them before season is over or whatever.

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            Im using warbonds, just not the premium stuff since nothing there I desire and I don’t search the map for that currency.

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              Ah ok. I was worried that you were locking yourself out of the progression system. That makes sense.

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      Premium currency is freely available on missions and it’s not hard to accrue enough to make frequent buys in the money store without spending a cent. The problem becomes the amount of time I spend in game, which doesn’t feel like a problem.

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    No. This is not a “creative” way to nudge us towards the store. Definitely not. It’s just the type of monetization every gamer has been secretly yearning for, right?

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    9 months ago

    When Helldivers 2 closes down you can’t play it anymore, it’s still part of the problem and not the solution, let people host servers or do it p2p.

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      9 months ago

      Arrowhead still supporting HD1 so I don’t see that being an issue for at least 8-10 years.

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    I’ve already given up on online games. I don’t enjoy them like i use too a few years back and endlessly grinding doesn’t come close to the satisfaction of actually finishing a game. My friend streamed some of this to convince me to get it, the gameplay looked bland and he clipped through the map and had to start the mission again. I think ill stick to finishing my backlog of single player games.

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      9 months ago

      I just looked and I may give it a try. Looks good. It’s worth mentioning it’s in Alpha, some people don’t enjoy trying to play games that early on and it explains why it’s free.

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        9 months ago

        Beyond All Reason is a Spring Engine game which is an open source rts engine that has been in development for probably a decade and a half at this point.