That’s because there’s no reason for most people to buy another TV. The majority of people who would want one already have a TV, and there has been no technological advancement in the last decade or two that would entice anyone to throw away their already perfectly acceptable large LCD/OLED/whatever television just to buy another one just like it.
The only thing anyone has been able to come up with is making all TV’s internet connected and “smart,” which is a feature that approximately nobody except the MBA’s in charge of the companies cranking them out seems to actually want.
Actually, a LOT of people stream with a smart TV instead of a separate device. More than half in the US.
https://gitnux.org/smart-tv-sales-statistics/
This tends to track with what I see in my family and friend’s homes. People tend to do couch streaming via the smart TV’s apps.
Personally, I think a fast, separate HDMI CEC device is a MUCH better user experience, and it’s still one remote. But for whatever reason, a lot of people aren’t opting to go with a separate AppleTV, GoogleTV ChromeCast, Roku, game console, etc.
The one thing I disagree with is the technological advancement. I feel like there has been advancement, but the problem is the cost of those advancements. No one is pining to drop thousands/tens of thousands of dollars on OLED, Micro-led, or whatever the hell else they have come out with over the years. On top of that the crappy interfaces of these TV’s as well as privacy problems. See the recent roku debacle.
people do want smart features on tvs.
they just dont want ads or the privacy nightmare tvs are.
More people living at home with parents of roommates, probably mean fewer TVs being sold.
Make more dumb TVs and my interest in buying a new one goes up significantly. Im actively avoiding buying a new one even though I have to furninsh a good sized living room and all I have right now is a bit small for the space. It’ll still work.
There are tons of dumb TVs out there but they’re more expensive because the ads and data harvesting subsidizes the cost.
I know it’s not a perfect suggestion but I agree with the other comment: buy a smart TV and never connect it to the internet. The vast majority of displays don’t gain anything (outside of the “smart” features) with firmware updates. The exceptions to that are very rare.
It sucks to have to buy a streaming box on top of it but the two items combined is less than a commercial (dumb) display. Even at cost.
Though instead of a Chromecast for streaming, I’d consider an AppleTV…I’m not a fan of Apple but it’s hands down the best streaming box I’ve used outside of a dedicated HTPC.
I keep hearing people say that, but I paid thousands of dollars for my TV to still have ads. The days of if you don’t pay for the product then you are the product is dead. You will pay for it and still be the product regardless of cost.
Well, no Internet connection no ads. I definitely agree it sucks
They all ship with default ads.
It’s sad how Apple’s strategy of “just use an actually fast CPU and make a Home Screen without ads” is a breakthrough in the industry. It shows what a fucking mess everyone else is in.
The home screen on an AppleTV has ads, unfortunately. The main thing I like about it is how responsive it is - made possible by both the hardware and software. I also really like the remote, though I preferred the one from a generation or two ago.
What I DON’T like about it is that a few years ago Apple disabled IP control unless you set it up through HomeKit. If you don’t want to use HomeKit, enjoy your IR control.
You can always just not use the smart features, and if you do want them, pick up a chromecast to plug into it. Walmart’s one is like $20 and holds its own against the more expensive ones.
With some exceptions, enthusiasm in technology is in decline in general. We are peaking in terms of rate of progress across the board, from computer speed to smart phone innovation to TV specs. When’s the last time ordinary folks got excited about a new phone release? Who cares about a TV larger than 60 inches? It’s not like most people can even afford a wall big enough to put it on. Who cares about anything more than 4k on a tiny screen?
Meanwhile, the cost of living is only increasing, and consumer trust in product life support is in decline. Stories about TVs listening to private conversations, or holding your device hostage for forced TOS updates, anti-right to repair, the mountain of e-waste and micro plastics, pervasive DRM, enshitified services, subscription hardware…
Should we be surprised? No.
The only thing that gets me excited about tech any more is repairability and offline/local networking.
Don’t forget enshittification. I use my TV less and only streaming but am really frustrated by ever more intrusive ads and surveillance. Sometimes I’m just too annoyed to turn on the big TV.
Mine is only 3 years old, but I can definitely see not bothering to get a new one when it’s old, unless they start making dumb TVs again. There are plenty of screens in the house and done of them are less annoying to use
Absolutely. Dumb TVs going forward. Unfortunate that the best screens like those made by Samsung are ruined by surveillance and hardware that can’t run the “smart” OS for more than a few years without eventually running like dog shit.
I dunno if TV is dead per se as we all enjoy watching shows/movies. Not really interested in gimmicks - we only have 4K as all new TV’s are 4K & we only got it because our previous TV failed & they can no longer be repaired.
All i want is a good quality dumb screen. You can stick all your smart features where the sun dont shine, I’ll handle everything via a separate box that I control thank you. I’ll not be at the mercy of your shitty EULA, you won’t monitor my viewing habits or force ads into the UI or remove your dogshit apps without warning. Our TV has never been online, HTPC with a couple of USB TV tuners, uBlock Origin, an interface of my choosing, remote control & lots of storage handles everything. Still perfectly happy watching SD stuff, the only 4K we watch is YouTube.
SmartTube is better than YouTube
How do you configure to keep it offline? Just blocking in dns/router?
I’ve still got all my 1080p dumb tvs. Works for me
I won’t buy another tv. Only dumb monitors now.
Link a dumb Monitor that is 65 inch pls
I bought a projector not too long ago. I’ll never go back.
I loved my projector! I found it on ebay for a steal apparently because when I went to find my next one I couldn’t find the same quality for a reasonable price range I could afford at the time. When this TV blows up I’ll probably look at a projector again.
I’m actually in the market for a new tv and have been tempted to go the projector route, especially with the advancements in short throw projectors. However, I’m scared off by the fact that I would like to enjoy the same experience during the day as I would at night. My living room isn’t the ideal dark theater room…
I’m pretty sure that PEOPLE ALREADY OWN A TV and probably can’t afford to replace it.
I have no intention of replacing mine.Gizmochina doesn’t understand that physical TV sales has nothing to do with “TV being dead,” what a disconnect here.
“TV is dead” because it is full of ads, and crap nobody watches, not because global flat screen TV sales are down.
Well they aren’t alive especially when my TV asked me to sign this no lawsuit BS
Go back to selling “dumb” sets and I’d buy 4 brand new, big TVs right now. Seriously, I would replace both of my existing TV’s and finally get ones for the other major rooms in my house almost immediately. But I won’t, because all you can get now are smart TVs and smart TVs are just fucking awful.
It’s not just the technology. Why buy a TV when the subscriptions cost a fortune and the shows are crap? We have the Internet now, and watch less TV than before.
Yes. We never watch. The kids prefer the iPads … Amazon fires, but don’t tell them…
I have Jellyfin stream old sitcom reruns almost all day while I work. I just don’t need to upgrade all that often.
I don’t remember when I watched the telly at home previously. Most of my entertainment are games and then some YouTube and movies not so often (lurking in friend’s online streaming services or googling “watch x for free”).
Stopped watching the television when too many ads erupted even between the movies that were my last interest in this service.
Most of my telly shows I see nowadays are at a friend’s place, and I’m every time annoyed about the amount of ads.
