• DragonTangram88@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I wouldn’t be opposed to a device that blocked all social media, but was filled with educational, and age appropriate, apps for a child. I don’t think playing Math Blaster ruined my childhood. Super Mario Brothers didn’t give me any life skills, other than improving hand-eye coordination. Neither one ruined my life, though.

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    8 months ago

    Parents are concerned that providing their children with a smartphone will open them up to predators, online bullying, social pressure and harmful content.

    These same parents will also just shove a smartphone or a tablet in front of their kids faces to shut them up for a while.

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      8 months ago

      I’m probably going to make it a rule that my kids don’t get them until 15. I’m 28 and have definitely been ruined by smartphones. My attention span is shit and motivation is hard to maintain when the internet is just right there.

      I wish there was a device that only did the bare minimum of email, phone, texting, navigation, and music.

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    8 months ago

    The school I work at is implementing this starting next week.

    Except it’s a music school so they can use metronome apps. Also, they can use it to send emails to the copy room to print music sheets. Or to use in class when it’s required. Or for whatever exception they can think of. And they actually expect us to enforce it with all these exceptions.

    Yeah, I’m sure it will work /s

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    8 months ago

    You dont need a law for this. If you dont want your kid to use or have a smartphone then dont buy them one.

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      The question then would be if it might cause other problems. A lot of places are moving to e-learning, for example, and might expect the students to have internet access of some form or other.

      Whether that be in the form of smartphone apps/websites, or through a laptop that the school provides, at which point, it’s basically the same thing, especially if peer pressure puts them on social media or some such.

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        8 months ago

        As I said in another comment if the parents are the ones to buy it then they can put heavy parental controls on the phones or tablets.

        I use a work provided cellphone while I’m on my job site and they have that fucker so locked down I can’t even change the auto lock timing so I know you can lock tons of things with passwords on phones and tablets.

        Idk anything about school laptops because I’m apparently old as fuck now and that wasn’t a thing when I was younger. But I would assume that they also use software to lock those down.

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    8 months ago

    No, children deserve to be able to fact check their parent’s biased narrative, too.

    It’s a conservative mindset to demand you get to monopolize the information your child receives until they’re 18.

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      8 months ago

      Many children are being radicalised by online content, like the criminal Andrew Tate becoming popular among teenagers.

      Most people aren’t fact checking anything online. They are far more likely to start believing conspiracy theories or outright false narratives.

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        There’s no cure all solution. I consider homeschooled children taught to live their lives by regressive religious texts to be just as broken as the cult of Tate.

        If any intervention will still yield roughly equivalent mixed results, I always err on the side of more access to information. A child can gravitate to Andrew Tate’s toxicity, or they can look up facts about the confederacy their parents told them fought for “states rights and freedumb!”

        In a perfect world, loving parents should be available to provide opinions and context, but I’d rather that child have the opportunity to seek out a rational, benevolent path if the parents attempt to indoctrinate them to their worldview with no other options.

        The parents most interested in dominating all information their child receives tend to be the same ones that get mad at the schools for teaching children that genitals exist, the universe is billions of years old, and their country wasn’t always perfect, stuff they need to know for life whether their parents like it or not.

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          you seem to be assuming that children have the same logical reasoning faculties that adults do. this is not the case.

          i agree that parents should not have a monopoly over the information that their children get, but i think that well-educated school teachers are a better solution to this than the internet. (although this would require the US to put some kind of emphasis on improving its education system, so it’s probably unlikely)

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            you seem to be assuming that children have the same logical reasoning faculties that adults do. this is not the case.

            Critical thinking and reasoning must be taught, and in the US largely doesn’t until the college level unfortunately. Many adults, many parents have no logical reasoning faculties and never will. Some are very proud of this, declaring the whims and opinions that pop into their heads “common sense.” I refer you to my fellow Americans who see salvation in a slumlord game show host nepo baby. There’s a reason humanity spent 180+ thousand years wandering in the dirt before stumbling upon a less brutal way to live 10-20 thousand years ago.

            Again, some like myself may seek out such information if they are starved of it at home, if they have access. If anything, getting multiple conflicting opinions tends to make a new mind seek out ways to parse the true from the false, and that chance is better than no chance at all.

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      8 months ago

      Thats how parenting works. Kids dont fact check, they dont know how to. Everyone has a biased narritive and will pass it off to their kids, thats not an issue.

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    8 months ago

    Sounds like typical flag-shaggers, yearning for “the good old days” when there were four channels, you played in the road because the Tories took the playgrounds, etc - so they want to force it on their kids instead of accepting that the world has changed.