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    What a silly article. 700,000 per day is ~256 million a year. Thats peanuts compared to the 10 billion they got from MS. With no new funding they could run for about a decade & this is one of the most promising new technologies in years. MS would never let the company fail due to lack of funding, its basically MS’s LLM play at this point.

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      While title is click bite, they do say right at the beginning:

      *Right now, it is pulling through only because of Microsoft’s $10 billion funding *

      Pretty hard to miss, and than they go to explain their point, which might be wrong, but still stands. 700k i only one model, there are others and making new ones and running the company. It is easy over 1B a year without making profit. Still not significant since people will pour money into it even after those 10B.

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      Almost every company uses either Google or Microsoft Office products and we already know that they’re working on an AI offering/solution for O365 integration, they can see the writing on the wall here and are going to profit massively as they include it in their E5 license structure or invent a new one that includes AI. Then they’ll recoup that investment in months.

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    If AI was so great, it would find a solution to operate at fraction of the cost it does now

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      Wait, has anybody bothered to ask AI how to fix itself? How much Avocado testing does it do? Can AI pull itself up by its own boot partition, or does it expect the administrator to just give it everything?

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        I asked Bard how ChatGPT can fix itself, here’s what it said:

        ChatGPT can fix itself in a number of ways, including:

        Retraining on a larger dataset. ChatGPT is trained on a massive dataset of text and code, but it can always be retrained on a larger dataset. This would help ChatGPT to learn new things and improve its performance.

        Using a different algorithm. ChatGPT is currently trained using the GPT-3 algorithm, but there are other algorithms that could be used. For example, ChatGPT could be trained using the Megatron-Turing NLG algorithm, which is one of the most powerful language models in the world.

        Using a combination of algorithms. ChatGPT could also be trained using a combination of algorithms. This would allow ChatGPT to benefit from the strengths of different algorithms.

        Using a feedback loop. ChatGPT could be used to generate text, and then this text could be used to train ChatGPT. This would allow ChatGPT to learn from its own mistakes and improve its performance over time.

        Using human feedback. ChatGPT could also be used to generate text, and then this text could be reviewed by humans. The human feedback could then be used to improve ChatGPT’s performance.

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      Deepmind is actually working on an AI that improve performances of low level programs. It started with improving sorting algorithm.

      It’s an RL algorithm.

      Main issue is that everything takes time, and expectations on current AI are artificially inflated.

      It will reach the point most are discussing now, it’ll simply take a bit longer than people expect

      Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01883-4

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      It is clearly no sense. But it satisfies the irrational needs of the masses to hate on AI.

      Tbf I have no idea why. Why do people hate a extremely clever family of mathematical methods, which highlights the brilliance of human minds. But here we are. Casually shitting on one of the highest peak humanity has ever reached

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        I probably sound like I hate it, but I’m just giving my annual “this new tech isn’t the miracle it’s being sold as” warning, before I go back to charging folks good money to clean up the mess they made going “all in” on the last one.

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        People are scared because it will make consolidation of power much easier, and make many of the comfyer jobs irrelevant. You can’t strike for better wages when your employer is already trying to get rid of you.

        The idealist solution is UBI but that will never work in a country where corporations have a stranglehold on the means of production.

        Hunger shouldn’t be a problem in a world where we produce more food with less labor than anytime in history, but it still is, because everything must have a monetary value, and not everyone can pay enough to be worth feeding.

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          I agree with this. People should fight to democratize AI, public model, public data, public fair research. And should fight misuse of it from business schools’ type of guys.

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      ChatGPT has the potential to make Bing relevant and unseat Google. No way Microsoft pulls funding. Sure, they might screw it up, but they’ll absolutely keep throwing cash at it.

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        They seems to be killing Cortana… So I expect a new assistant at least based partially on this tbh.

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    Indian newpapers publish anything without any sort of verification. From reddit videos to whatsapp forwards. More than news, they are like an old chinese whispers game which is run infinitely. So take this with a huge grain of salt.

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      Company go bankrupt, biggest investors take assets and IP at discount. Win.

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    Does it feel like these “game changing” techs have lives that are accelerating? Like there’s the dot com bubble of a decade or so, the NFT craze that lasted a few years, and now AI that’s not been a year.

    The Internet is concentrating and getting worse because of it, inundated with ads and bots and bots who make ads and ads for bots, and being existentially threatened by Google’s DRM scheme. NFTs have become a joke, and the vast majority of crypto is not far behind. How long can we play with this new toy? Its lead paint is already peeling.

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        It works if you ask it for small specific components, the bigger the scope of the request, the less likely it will give you anything worthwhile.

        So basically you still need to know what you’re doing and how to design a script/program anyway, and you’re just using chatgpt to figure out the syntax.

        It’s a bit of time-saver at times but it’s not replacing anyone in the immediate future.

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        I’ve tried using it myself and the responses I get, no matter how I phrase them, are too vague in most places to be useful. I have yet to get anything better than what I’ve found in documentation.

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          My experience is different, the response I get is not perfect but it’s good enough to be a start for any decent dev to refactor and build upon with lesser effort than from scratch. Maybe it depends on what language or framework you’re asking for.

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    Of course it will, all these companies are funded by tech giants and venture capitalist firms. They don’t make money they cost money.

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    A company that just raised $10b from Microsoft is struggling with $260m a year? That’s almost 40 years of runway.

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    They are choosing to spend that much. That doesn’t suggest that they expect financial problems.

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      True. They could close it off to the public at any time and only offer a subscription service.

      However, they are probably afraid to do that for fear that they will lose out to competitors. Offering the service for free was the key to their popularity and bringing AI technology into the hands the average users. If they cut that off, someone else will quickly take their place.

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      I’d guess it’s one of those “make people dependent on our free/cheap product then increase the price later” kind of deal

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    Well, I was happily paying them to lewd up the chatbots, but then they emailed me telling me to stop. I guess they don’t want my money.

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      I’ve heard it’s not as good, but I think NovelAI works pretty well, and explicitly allows that.

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        I actually started my journey into Lewd AI stuff with NovelAI. I stopped using it after awhile because I like chatbot rp specifically, not just something that will finish a story for me. Using Silly Tavern to try and emulate the NovelAI models into acting like chat bots just shows how not good they are at that.

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          Makes sense. In that case I guess your next best option is probably to buy or rent hardware to run the local models that are suitable for chat rp.

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              Same, at least for anything but the tiny ones that will fit in my limited vram. Hoping a gpu that’s actually good for LLM will come out in the next few years that’s not 15k and made for servers.