• Stern@lemmy.world
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    “So guys getting blown up in trenches in Ukraine by drones? Ha, totally not age-restricted,” the creator said. “ Me firing a 3D printed pink glock that I made? Age-restricted. We don’t need kids watching that. We want kids watching people getting blown up by mines. Love it. Awesome.”

    Guys missing the corpo bottom line.

    Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn’t exist for Ukraine war vids.

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      More generally “gun control” is never about controlling the cops, military, MIC, etc. There’s bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.

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        There’s bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.

        as if this is a bad thing.

        oh, sorry, were you still dreaming of starting a civil war with you widdle rifles against, I DUNNO, ARMOR DIVISIONS AND AIR FORCES AND CHEMICAL BIOLOGICAL AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS?

        because that seems pitifully stupid.

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          It is if that’s how you think about it. But over time the thinking behind that has changed. Because these types of people are.in our military and they think most military members think like them. By proxy that means they’d be on the side of the “militia”.

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            By proxy that means they’d be on the side of the “militia”.

            Nope. Regardless of your delusions of boogaloo, those people serving in the mil TOOK A FUCKING OATH.

            It probably doesn’t mean shit to you, I mean, obviously, but it should matter to them. They voluntarily took an oath to defend the constitution of the US against all enemies foreign and domestic. I know, I took that oath, and no one said “oh but if you want civil war there’s an exception” - because there isn’t.

            Traitorous fucks will happen, and they’ll face the consequences.

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              I was in the military. I took the oath. What I’m saying is, if you don’t think there are MAGAT idiots in the military (a lot of them), please understand they did a threat assessment of military members while Donald Trump was running for President the first time, and decided to make a military wide training specifically to educate us about that oath and remind us who what we took it to defend. So yes. I absolutely do know some people who are all for militia fighting the government who are still military members.

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                Traitorous fucks will happen, and they’ll face the consequences.

                then you’re violating your oath by aiding them. AND YOU ARE AIDING THEM BY NOT TURNING THEM IN IF THEY’RE ACTUAL SEDITIOUS GARBAGE.

                Why are you aiding seditious garbage? I thought you took your oath seriously.

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                  I don’t think you understand just how prevalent this situation is, or just what they would need to do for me to “turn them in” for basically being on the wrong side of the political fence. For one, you’re assuming the person or persons in charge doesn’t feel the same way (chain of command isn’t the kind of thing you just skip because some of them happen to be suspect). Second, they actually have to do something against the UCMJ for me to “turn them in”. Thinking that the government should be overthrown in the event that it over steps is constitutional. Thinking you could overturn a free and legal public election is not constitutional, but it’s also not against the rules.

                  You can’t turn people in for thinking. Only for acting. You’re kind of coming off as a troll and I’m done with you following me through the thread.

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      A gun is a technological marvel of a thing. Scientifically they are really very interesting. How they work is kind of ingenious, and their history and how they have so drastically changed the course of all history is fascinating.

      I don’t want to say that these people probably are all in that boat. But being a gun nut who wants to shoot someone isn’t the only reason to find something interesting. I feel the same way about fireworks and nuclear bombs. Looking at the work that had to be done by so many people in order to make a nuclear bomb and calculate what it would and could do? That’s as cool and intriguing as a space shuttle or an oil rig drill.

      3D printing is also really cool in and of itself.

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          They’re mostly not. Guntubers have given a lot of people that didn’t grow up with/around firearms basic knowledge and safety info. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

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            guntubers?

            you mean casuals who don’t know shit and get their knowledge and ‘experience’ from watching youtube?

            pretty sweet gravy seals

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              No. No, that’s not who I was referring to.

              If I had replaced guntubers with xxxxx you should’ve known what I was saying just from context. You’re denser than a gravy seal my friend.

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                sure thing chairborn ranger. you fucking idiots think war is a game and fetishize weapons. get your head out.

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                  I’ll have to add that one to the list. Thanks for that.

                  You don’t even understand the conversation, apparently. I don’t know why I expect more of people here, but hey - nothing to be done about it.

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    Soon the only content left on Youtube will be AI generated ads for Ponzi schemes.

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    Is this why Ian McCollum’s videos are getting altered? Over the years, he’s had many historical deep-dives featuring firearms from the Murphy’s auction house. In recent months, he’s been re-uploading those videos to cover their logo with the word “Morphy’s”. Even though the auctions are long over, I suppose Google counts them as promoting sales.

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      I remember something from “forgotten weapons” where he I think he talked about having to retroactively blur the auction house because he didn’t work with them anymore or a change in their policy. Not a Google one, I think.

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    I used to frequent the FOSSCAD IRC ages back as a teen. This started during the post-Liberator panic, there were talks about regulating 3D printers to not allow printing guns, etc. Designed a few things, never actually printed any of it myself, but some others did. Really got me into engineering before I exited the scene, led to actually pursuing an engineering career. Was surprised to see 3D printed gun videos so openly shared, it was pretty underground for ages there.

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      I used to run the 3D printing community on G+ at around 500k strong, (about 10k weekly active users according to Google’s stats) and I ended up actually pissing off a lot of my European users because of this. My viewpoint on it, was as an engineering exercise – it’s an amazing thing. It’s not advocating for guns, and guns aren’t only used to kill other people. So I stood up for the guys posting about their engineering challenges, and their work making 3D printed parts for a machine with high impact loads and loads of cycling issues.

      Unfortunately, it lost me some friends, like Gina Haubage and Tomas Sanladerer – as they disagreed highly; and wanted to ban anyone posting firearms related 3D printing content.

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        there is probably no point in fighting this sort of thing, but i wish we would engineer something else instead

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          Projectiles are a part of human nature. We’ve always thrown spears, rocks, etc – firearms are just an extension of our better understanding of the world. I know of barely anything else that uses explosive charges that is as widely applicable to the general public. Roofing nail guns? But that’s such a niche subject, it’s not something people are really worried about trying to make with 3D printing. Believe me, if I had a better engineering challenge for 3D printing, I’d be suggesting it. But nothing quite hits like containing an explosive charge, and utilizing the energy in a way that performs work without destroying itself.

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            camera gear? experimental musical instruments? i think an idiot could make a list of things that aren’t guns and don’t suck

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              Did you miss the qualifier “that uses explosive charges”? The engineering challenge is in the explosive part.

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        Absolutely, it’s a fabulous engineering challenge, to make it work well on a hobbyist grade 3D printer with ordinary materials. Also a lesson in using the right tool for the right job (some parts are just better off milled or bought OtS)

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    Google is ruining themselves to suck off advertisers. Hopefully someone can fill the gap of YouTube.

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    I woke up this morning thinking “I wonder what the 3D printing gun community thinks about stuff.”, and I’m going to bed not giving a shit. Fuck these psychos.