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        Ironically, it’s going to be a bunch of “libertarian” tech bros who use crypto for “privacy” who will be the first to give Musk (and by proxy every world government) their ID.

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      Shouldn’t trust Twitter users either, they’ll take an out of context joke you made back in 2011 and ruin your life over it.

      Honestly, just fuck talking to people online. Literal no good will ever come of it. I’m just gonna stop communicating with people.

      This shit is so dumb, no upside, only downsides

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    I, for one, want to thank Elon Musk for graciously backing up my highly sensitive government ID (that has my birthdate, eye color, height, weight), my biometric data, and likeness! It is such a nice thing to centralize all my most sensitive data into one giant honeypot waiting to meltdown. It is made even more appealing after he fired the entire staff responsible for maintaining this honeypot!

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    There is absolutely 0 chance I’m sending any documents to the clown in chief

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    it won’t be mandatory, unfortunately. Would’ve loved to see another fediverse mass migration

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    Hahahahaha no.

    Besides, what makes them think I even have a government ID? I don’t drive and I’d only need a passport if I had to leave the country.

    Looooooooots of people don’t have ID.

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        In the US, you need an ID if you want an actual job or bank account. Apart from living on the streets or living in the woods, I’m not sure how you could function without one.

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            Well, it’s not like you can actually take someone’s word on who they actually are. People lie.

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          you only need it if you’re buying alcohol or driving a car. your work gets your social but isnt entitled to your ID, which you don’t have to have or carry if you do have it. You can’t even get a bank account without a contract cellphone, so people without ID use prepaid credit cards you buy at the store and load with cash.

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            Walmart used to have a ton of options for working class people that didn’t have banking options. Not sure if it’s still the case. Many US workers were full-time employed and housed and did not have a bank account. Check cashing was through Walmart.

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              Wallmart won’t cash my checks, they also won’t tell me why they won’t cash my checks. I’ve never had any issues with them, so it’s a mystery. Not that I need that anymore but it’s not a system anyone should have to rely on.

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        Not having a passport for sure is an American thing, but I believe we carry and are required to use our IDs more frequently than other countries , which usually comes in the form of a state-issued drivers license/state ID card.

        We drive more often and that requires having it on you at all times. Also every store is pretty strictly required to check it when buying alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana. And having to be 21 to buy those things kind of presents more of a need to check it since it’s harder to judge based on looks.

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          Tbh in the Europe Union and some extra countries like Switzerland you can move with your national Id between countries so again not that uncommon to not have a passport either.

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          I think the distinction you make is important. Until fairly recently, not carrying ID was a British thing. Even if you still had it. It used to be an anti-totalitarian point of pride to not be required to present ID on demand. In Germany, carrying a form of identification is a legal requirement from age 16. Of course, anyone who drives in the UK still has a form of picture ID and increasing ease of travel makes passports more common. When mainland Europe is so close, why not holiday there? Whereas the US is so vast and varied that you needn’t pass border control. But this perceived freedom has been shifting in terms of everyday experience.

          I don’t think anyone younger than 30 has ever not been carded at Tesco to do their grocery shopping, unless they’ve never had a drop of alcohol or needed an aspirin. I’ve been carded for buying a barbecue brush at Wilko (RIP). You see signs in shops that say that you can expect to be carded if you’re younger than 25. The point is, what was once seen as the government infringing on your rights in a totalitarian way is now expected from supermarkets. So you carry ID. And it’s not just at the shops. What X is doing isn’t anything Twitter wasn’t already. You couldn’t get an account on the birdsite without providing a telephone nr. In the UK, you get a SIM card contract by providing ID. Yes, people can get around that, but it’s so complicated that I would be surprised if that many have.

          Clearly Twitter means enough to people for them to be willing to sign over so much, even when decent alternatives exist. I still think it has a lot to do with content, user numbers and wanting to be on the most popular stream. But it might also be that our perception of privacy is changing, as it has before.

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        like no one here has a passport. It’s not like your boss is gonna let you leave the country anyway.

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        According to white liberals, it’s mostly black people that don’t have ID. It gets brought up every time someone suggests making people present an ID card to vote. Most Americans go their whole lives and never leave the country, so passports aren’t as ubiquitous as they are in other countries.

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      If all the ignorant masses don’t wake up to this WEF fuckery and it becomes “normalized” to need this for everything, then you’ll need it to receive your basic universal payment in centralized digital currency. You’ll also need it to incorporate your global “green score” which is like a type of social credit. Once cash is gone and decentralized crypto is illegal to own, most people will comply so they don’t starve. A 100% identifiable human 100% tracked and controlled. Fail to comply to something and your identity gets switched off. Nothing works for you now. This is not fiction. Just pay attention to the agenda of WEF. And if you think this can’t or won’t happen then please explain how the fuck Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn still exist? Every person who is faced with this request for government issued ID for anything that isn’t government should refuse and leave. Trusting these incompetent and abusive corporations with even more private information is illogical. They can’t keep anything safe now. Giving them more won’t “save you from the hackers”. That is a disingenuous deception to double down on control. They care nothing for your privacy, safety or well being. “We had a data breach and your personal information has been compromised. It includes your name, email, phone number, address and government issued ID with face scan. Oops, sorry”.
      Everyone needs to say “NO” to this now!

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          Unlike the writing of Asimov, this is not a work of fiction. Do some digging for yourself and you’ll see that World Economic Forum has plans for you and I. Many have indeed been introduced. Many governments are following the agenda and have been for decades. Your answer is why I’m pessimistic and know we’re fucked. Klaus Schwab wants to be your feudal overlord. He knows what’s best for you. It sounds like you’re ready to trust him.

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            I’ve dug deep, and what I’ve found just reinforces that positions like the one you’ve put forward are completely fabricated and only really accepted by uneducated, ignorant, socially displaced losers who want to feel like they know something everyone else doesn’t.

            Tldr; you gotta be a special sort of retarded to believe any of the bullshit you’re claiming to be true.

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      Elon promised that if you sign up for a paid premium account and it gets a lot of engagement, then X will give you money. There are a lot of fools who will gladly share their ID for free money. Of course, the money will never come, but that won’t stop the suckers signing up for this.

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    So how does this work for non-US users who’re from countries with different laws and ID types. This sounds like it might break EU and UK laws respectively on the storage and uploading front.

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      “By using this site, you waive your right to local EU and UK laws”

      It doesn’t work like that, but I bet Elon will try.

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      In EU there are ways to verify yourself online, for instance if you want to get a credit card, etc. This is normally handled by a third-party, which more or less just checks per webcam if the info they got from the other company is the same as what you show them. I don’t see any privacy issues here, that I wouldn’t have seen in processes of other companies, that already do something like this.

      This isn’t something new and I would guess that this is the case with most modern countries.

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      I thought it was fake because of the typo, then I remembered that it’s Xitter and they probably don’t have someone proofreading stuff anymore.

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    Hilarious. Twitter sucked before Elon took over, I can’t imagine wanting to ever sign up for something this invasive now.

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    Removed as a protest against the community’s support for campaigns to bring about the deaths of members of marginalized groups, and opposition to private entities working to prevent such campaigns, together with it’s mindless flaming and downvoting of anyone who disagrees.

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      Elon has the vibe of someone who likes low budget TV shows now that you mention it.

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        Hey there’s nothing wrong with low budget tv shows! You can’t take my early seasons of Stargate SG-1 from me like that