• exanime@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Just signed up today for the family plan in my ongoing degoogling process

    It’s a bit pricey but so far loving it. Specially Proton Pass, coming from bitwarden (which I liked), it’s nicer and faster, much faster

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      Don’t put all your eggs in one basket again, that’s what makes degoogling such a difficult thing. There’s several proton services I intentionally avoid and use alternatives for so I don’t have to uproot my entire digital life to leave them if they start being shitty. If you go from using all google services to all proton you’re setting yourself up to need the same sort of big migration down the road. 15 years ago google was also an awesome company that just kept making incredibly useful things for users just because they could and look at them now.

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      5 months ago

      And so what happens to your passwords if Proton were to go offline and you needed to continue using Proton Pass? Do they have an open source server you can use like Bitwarden does or vaultwarden? Or are you essentially locking yourself into a new walled garden for no reason other than name recognition? Why not just use KeePassXC which is encrypted locally rather than share your password with a third party who can easily capture your private key password?

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        5 months ago

        I think a lot of these cloud-based password vaults will have a local database that syncs with the cloud. I think you can unlock them and access your passwords without internet access

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          Keyword… unlock, not add information or use them offline where they can sync to an open source backend. They are cloud-based password managers that are designed to operate online. The backend is not open source. It is designed to lock you into a walled garden.

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            5 months ago

            The unlocking happens locally. it’s simply decrypting. also, i think you can export the data from proton pass.

            it’s a cloud solution. keepassxc works great and I don’t know why you want something else to replace it

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          It will cache credentials for a short time so you can still access some of your passwords. It will not let you add new credentials. It’s like a web browser working in offline mode for a period of time. It is a cloud-based password manager with a closed-source server backend.

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          5 months ago

          Vaultwarden/Bitwarden integrate with SimpleLogin… and they offer other alias service providers as well.