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Fair play to them, but it’s kind of crazy that just delivering an enjoyable experience for your customer is something to be lauded in the gaming industry…
starts game
sees thing
rolls perception
touches thing
party had died
“Just like I remember!”
What are they talking about? Yes they do: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378500/Digital_Deluxe_Edition_DLC/
Mind you, I am not even mad, because they are extra superflous items from DOS2, so whatever, but they definitely have at least dlc for in game items. I guess that isn’t really technically an in game purchase in the same way a dark pattern loot box is, but also in a single player game it is pretty much the same thing.
I am really supportive and happy for what Larian has done, but I think it is kind of naive for them to be beating their chest about this. Wizards of the Coast will one day probably force them to release monetized items, or charge for extra modules. I don’t think they will be unfair about it, but come on.
Is DLC an in game purchase though? I think they are specifying not having micro transactions.
DLC purchased through steam isn’t “in game”.
Edit: I just checked out the DLC and meh 10 bucks for a starter kit, dice skin, and emote.
You’re right, but it does fly in the face of what the actual text in the OP says.
I agree it’s not a bad deal, but it’s still exactly what they said they didn’t want to do
I dunno. They’ve provided this for free for Early Access backers (like me), which they didn’t need to do and none of this is required to enjoy the game. I just considering it as a bonus for backers and a small top up for people who don’t want to miss out.
it kinda doesn’t though, unless you’re able to complete the transaction from within the game. I’m okay with paying $10 for what is essentially a digital t-shirt that says “I paid the $10” and has no effect on gameplay.
Saying it doesn’t count if it’s not in-game feels pedantic - pretty sure you can’t buy shark cards inside GTA either
And the DLC does include functional items that affect gameplay
I’m not saying it’s an egregious example of it, but its not just cosmetic stuff, and it’s a lot more like a microtransaction than an actual DLC
I mean but come on, dlc for in game items - I don’t care how you slice it, that’s a microtransation, even if you don’t purcase from within the game UI.
Is the game actually good? Seeing a ton of hype around it, but also saw a ton of hype with Diablo 4 and Final Fantasy 16 and I thought both of those were mid at best.
If you like roleplaying games, absolutely yes. It’s way move involved than their previous games (which were also great). Divinity always felt AA at best, but the polish on BG3 is impeccable.
For me what really does it is the professional voice work and motion capture on seemingly every single sentiet humanoid character in the game. Even random folks who have a single line of dialogue have a unique voice and an interesting character design. They don’t all blend together, even when they are objectively filler characters.
It’s very good. D4 was also really good to be fair too, minmaxers just screamed a lot online while most people just played the game. I intentionally played a fire sorc this season because these people said it’s unplayable, currently in wt4 and doing tier 20 nm dungeons with my level 65 character so those people were obviously wrong.
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Depends on what you like. I’m enjoying it so far, but it’s not a casual game. It’s slow and there’s a ton of information thrown at you from the beginning in terms of game mechanics. It’s pretty overwhelming honestly, even though I’m familiar with older editions of d&d.
The turn based combat means battles can last a long time. It’s still satisfying, but it can also be a real slog sometimes.
I think a lot of people will find some of the dialogue mechanics tedious. If you want to roleplay for a certain outcome you’ll be forced to save scum because it uses on-screen dice rolls for conversation checks. But at the same time the RNG/dice system can lead to some cool, unexpected situations so I usually just go with it and enjoy the consequences, there’s a ton of freedom in this game and the writing and design is pretty clever. It does feel like a next gen RPG just because of the sheer scope of it and the huge number of options and abilities it gives you.
I’m finding the story interesting, the characters are well written, and there’s a ton of good content. It’s also gorgeous and hitting 60 fps on my laptop 3060 on ultra settings at 2k.
I’d say if you enjoy a deep/thoughtful role playing game, it’s worth trying. If you prefer a faster-paced RPG like Witcher or Dark Souls it might not be your cup of tea so watch some videos first. I definitely like it more than Diablo IV, but it’s basically a different genre entirely. It’s much, much deeper than D4.
D2 was maybe my favorite game. I couldn’t pay D4 more than an hour before being too bored to keep going. BG3 is capturing me though. It’s much heavier in the story and writing and less combat like a real dnd session would be. So far it’s not going to beat Pathfinder wotr for me but we’ll see
This statement alone works better than any advertisement they could have made
I LOVE that the leaned into save scumming on BG3. They know their audience for sure. Lets get those outcomes folks!
They’re all like that until investors get involved.
Most Sony exclusives are exactly this way as well.
It’s typically when multiplayer gets involved that the investors start rubbing their hands together.
Some single players, specially ones made by Ubisoft are becoming absolute money grabbers as well. Gran Turismo 7 was also a bit disappointing since they are also selling the virtual currency for actual money, while forcing you to grind a lot.
There are more armor sets in Assassin’s Creed Valhallas premium store than are in the base game
Amen to that!
It depends on wether or not the games free. I’m guessing it’s been paid for.
For single player games, sure. For games with co-op, sure. But I can understand multiplayer lifeservice games, MMOs/MMO-lites and similar to have in game stores (with reasonable pricing).
So many people don’t get this. Case in point: the latest Gundam game. The game is completely free, only a couple characters and some pointless cosmetics cost money. The characters you could get for $20 and the cosmetics were not expensive either, not even 1/10th as bad as something like Dota or Valorant. And yet people still complained about the monetization like crazy. It’s almost like the people making the game aren’t working for free and actually need to make money at some point…
I’m curious: would people prefer a single upfront cost on a game, in-game purchases, or for the game to be free but you need to support the developer through voluntary donations (which carry no reward)?
I prefer one single up-front purchase. That means there’s nothing for the game developer to gain by implementing predatory game design practices.
In-game purchases (excluding major expansion packs) should be reserved for f2p games only imo. And then the player should know exactly what they’re going to get. So no loot boxes.
I mean, there’s also nothing to gain for the developer by continuing development. Most f2p games only survive so long because of those microtransactions. Think about how long these games are supported, how much new content they get constantly. The “good old games” were one and done. If you got lucky, they might patch some bugs, but often that was left to the community.
The game’s looking great by the way
We believe in providing a complete…
Wasn’t this game released in paid early access a while ago?
Sounds like you are missing the point completely, likely in bad faith too
Their point is that they are good because they don’t have MTX and offered a “complete” game for your money. Except that last part isn’t exactly true, since they were charging for early access of an incomplete game. EA isn’t necessarily bad, but I hate the disingenuous statement.
Their statement said nothing about giving a complete experience from day one. You cut out the central part of the whole statement which is “without the need for additional purchases”.
The whole point of the public statement is about not requiring users to spend additional money to get the whole game. It got nothing to do with early access.
There is literally day one paid DLC though lol
That’s not really “DLC” in the conventional sense, that’s a deluxe edition. You’re not getting new content, just some bonus items for the base game, but a good chunk of what you get is actually outside of the game entirely (soundtrack, artbook, D&D character sheet).
It’s the same shit
I boot the game up through Steam and before their
UNNECESSARY LAUNCHER
loads, the button for
UPGRADE TO MORE MONEY
loads before the
PLAY GAME button loads.
I have a high end machine and gigabit.
Don’t defend this. It’s a great game but… c’mon.
I’m really glad a developer that actually cares about BG made this game. I’m not sure how much more I can take of ruined classics.
I’ve actually been kinda sacred to look at it because bg1 was probably the happiest memory of my childhood, really glad to see people loving it and I’ll probably give it a go
(And yes I’m exaggerating a bit but I used to play with my grandma on her computer, she’d sit and watch and we’d chat about things and she’d take notes and stuff or suggest strategy - it was such a great game in every regard, the story and the combat were fantastic with such beautiful areas to explore… Then when 2 came out and you could load your old save and import the party you finished with as the characters you start with! It was the best thing ever
Of course now I have grown as a man, times have changed and I have changed - I feared that there would be an empty shell under such a cherished memories name but tentatively I have started to allow myself to become excited to play it, sadly my grandmother has passed but what she taught me is you can’t live in the past, she loved new things and new ideas so I’m not wanting it to be exactly the same I’m just hoping it has that same feeling of fascination and depth of its forbearers as I hope I’ve gained from mine… Certainly im very excited to try out the new mechanics and gameplay elements that have gone into it, like having sex with a man that’s transformed into a bear.
