Windows 11 has made the “clean Windows install” an oxymoron | Op-ed: PC makers used to need to bring their own add-on bloatware—no longer.::Op-ed: PC makers used to need to bring their own add-on bloatware—no longer.

  • Zrybew@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I feel Apple is missing out on the opportunity of taking more marketshare.

    I remember the sub $750 2010 Macbook Air 11 inches that weighted 900grams and had a 6h battery. One of my favourite laptops all time and my first Mac.

    Today Apple insists on iPads that have extremely limited functionality, and don’t really threat MS on entry level laptop market.

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      1 year ago

      What? Apple is still releasing good laptops, m1 makbook air was unmatched for its price for like 2+ years and is still a machine that can last 6-10 hours under workload

      • Zrybew@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Absolutely! Great machines indeed, I have one.

        However, the sub-$1k market is under served with iPads only.

        I think a 12 inches M1 Macbook can do some serious damage at this price range.

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          1 year ago

          I guess (in their mind) their laptops are “premium” product and making a cheap one will lead to brand damage.

          Plus, I remember how bad was previous 12 inch macbook, people will probably be very catious about it (if they ever make one)

    • itsJoelle@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      What?! They have been taking marketshare since the M1 series.

      Heck, even iPadOS is gimped so the Mac doesn’t get stepped on. Which is a shame because the M1 Air has pretty darn close to the same silicon.

  • malloc@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I used to buy the “pro” version of windows to avoid shit like this. Windows 10 was the last version I bought and paid for. I was able to setup a strictly local account but had to disable all of the telemetry manually. Out of the box, that shit was enabled by default. Occasionally, updates would re-enable those settings.

    I just really hate windows. I only use the shit for gaming. Other than that I stick with *nix

    • average650@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      And Linux has come so far in gaming. The worst part isn’t the games themselves, but all the other crap companies make you install. The stupid Ubisoft and ea apps are the only reason I use windows at all.

  • papafoss@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    18 years of running linux on my computers because windows is insufferable in some way or form. Windows 11 Pro was actually fairly decent at first I even liked the UI despite its issues. Then updates broke and even digging into the cmd prompt tools couldn’t fix it. Which is just insane to me as a company that is hoovering up my data cant figure out updates. I dont even care all that much about the privacy aspect if it just worked. Hell its why I use google services. But every version of windows I have used since XP has had some sort of fatal error that could only be fixed with a clean install. When that happens its my sign to go on a distro hop.

    Dark patterns have also just become the norm in Windows and Mac OS. Honestly kind of sad because both OS’s at one point in time had there high points where they felt like they were built for the user. Now they are glorified billboards that run apps.

    • BURN@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I use it regularly to find and launch programs. Just like I use CMD+Space on mac. Windows key and start typing is super convenient, and search is somewhat decent at programs that are already installed

      • nfntordr@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I must clarify yes, I click the start button to search for apps etc but rarely, if ever, utilise the start menu. Searching from the start button, makes the search icon redundant, unless there’s something I’m missing?

  • bisq@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I read that if you select “English (World)” during setup, a lot of this bloat is never installed. Have yet to try.