ChatGPT generates cancer treatment plans that are full of errors — Study finds that ChatGPT provided false information when asked to design cancer treatment plans::Researchers at Brigham and Women’s Hospital found that cancer treatment plans generated by OpenAI’s revolutionary chatbot were full of errors.

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    I’m still confused that people don’t realize this. It’s not an oracle. It’s a program that generates sentences word by word based on statistical analysis, with no concept of fact checking. It’s even worse that someone actually did a study instead of simply acknowledging or realizing that ChatGPT is happy to just make stuff up.

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      while I agree it has become more of a common knowledge that they’re unreliable, this can add on to the myriad of examples for corporations, big organizations and government to abstain from using them, or at least be informed about these various cases with their nuances to know how to integrate them.

      Why? I think partly because many of these organizations are racing to adopt them, for cost-cutting purposes, to chase the hype, or too slow to regulate them, … and there are/could still be very good uses that justify it in the first place.

      I don’t think it’s good enough to have a blanket conception to not trust them completely. I think we need multiple examples of the good, the bad and the questionable in different domains to inform the people in charge, the people using them, and the people who might be affected by their use.

      Kinda like the recent event at DefCon trying to exploit LLMs, it’s not enough we have some intuition about their harms, the people at the event aim to demonstrate the extremes of such harms AFAIK. These efforts can help inform developers/researchers to mitigate them, as well as showing concretely to anyone trying to adopt them how harmful they could be.

      Regulators also need these examples in specific domains so they may be informed on how to create policies on them, sometimes building or modifying already existing policies of such domains.

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        This is true and well-stated. Mainly what I wish people would understand is there are current appropriate uses, like ‘rewrite my marketing email’, but generating information that could result in great harm if inaccurate is an inappropriate use. It’s all about the specific model, though - if you had a ChatGPT system trained extensively on medical information, it would result in greater accuracy, but still the information would need expert human review before any decision were made. Mainly I wish the media had been more responsible and accurate in portraying these systems to the public.

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      I know university professors struggling with this concept. They are so convinced using an LLM is plagiarism.

      It can lead to plagiarism if you use it poorly, which is why you control the information you feed it. Then proofread and edit.

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        Another related confusion in academia recently is the ‘AI detector’. It could easily be defeated with minor rewrites, if they were even accurate in the first place. My favorite misconception is there was a story of a professor who told students “I asked ChatGPT if it wrote this, and it said yes” which is just really not how it works.

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      This is why without some hitherto unknown or so far undeveloped capability of these sorts of LLM models, they’ll never actually be useful for performing any kind of mission critical work. The catch-22 is this: You can’t trust the AI to produce correct work without some kind of potentially dangerous, showstopping, or embarassing error. This isn’t a problem if you’re just, say, having it paint pictures. Or maybe even helping you twiddle the CSS on your web site. If there is a failure here, no one dies.

      But what if your application is critical to life or safety? Like prescribing medical care, or designing a building that won’t fall down, or deciding which building the drone should bomb. Well, you have to get a trained or accredited professional in whatever field we’re talking about to check all of its work. And how much effort does that entail? As it turns out, pretty much exactly as much as having said trained or accredited professional do the work in the first place.

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      It’s even worse that someone actually did a study instead of simply acknowledging or realizing that ChatGPT is happy to just make stuff up.

      Sure, the world should just trust preconceptions instead of doing science to check our beliefs. That worked great for tens of thousands of years of prehistory.

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        It’s not merely a preconception. It’s a rather obvious and well-known limitation of these systems. What I am decrying is that some people, from apparent ignorance, think things like “ChatGPT can give a reliable cancer treatment plan!” or “here, I’ll have it write a legal brief and not even check it for accuracy”. But sure, I agree with you, minus the needless sarcasm. It’s useful to prove or disprove even absurd hypotheses. And clearly people need to be definitely told that ChatGPT is not always factual, so hopefully this helps.

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          I’d say that a measurement always trumps arguments. At least you know how accurate they are, this statement cannot follow from reason:

          The JAMA study found that 12.5% of ChatGPT’s responses were “hallucinated,” and that the chatbot was most likely to present incorrect information when asked about localized treatment for advanced diseases or immunotherapy.

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            That’s useful. It’s also good to note that the information the agent can relay depends heavily on the data used to train the model, so it could change.

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        It’s not even a preconception, it’s willful ignorance, the website itself tells you multiple times that it is not accurate.

        The bottom of every chat has this text: “Free Research Preview. ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. ChatGPT August 3 Version”

        And when you first use it, a modal pops up explaining the same thing.

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        Why the hell are people down voting you?

        This is absolutely correct. We need to do the science. Always. Doesn’t matter what the theory says. Doesn’t matter that our guess is probably correct.

        Plus, all these studies tell us much more than just the conclusion.

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        ChatGPT isn’t some newly discovered sentient species.

        It’s a machine designed and built by human engineers.

        This is like suggesting that we study fortune cookies to see if they can accurately forecast the future. The manufacturer can simply tell you the limitation of their product… Being that they can not divine the future.

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      But it’s supposed to be the future! I want the full talking spaceship like in Star Trek, not this … “initial learning steps” BS!

      I was raised on SciFi and am now mad that I don’t have all the cool made up things from those shows/movies!