More than $35 million has been stolen from over 150 victims since December — ‘nearly every victim’ was a LastPass user::Security experts believe some of the LastPass password vaults stolen during a security breach last year have now been cracked open following a string of cryptocurrency heists

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    These guys saved their seed phrases to LastPass, not just account passwords. You can’t just change your seeds without moving funds to a new wallet.

    The main lesson here is never store your seeds in digital form, ever. Write it down by hand on paper at creation and then take additional efforts to safeguard it.

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      I just store recovery phrases of all kinds on an encrypted USB stick (which is obviously only connected to my PC when I need to put a new one in or use it (which so far has happened never)), I feel like that is secure enough for me, although if I could laminate at home I might print and make small cards in a separate a card wallet. Any other way I feel like I would eventually lose them, the particular USB drive ive had for over 15 years, it is 512 MB lol.

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        I would duplicate to at least 2 sticks, and also a written form that you keep stored with important documents, like a safe with your SSN, birth certificate, etc.

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        For any significant amount of money, the seed should never even touch a PC. No USBs, no printers.

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      I wrote my seed information down for my poop coin wallet directly on Charmin double ply and then promptly wiped my ass with it and flushed.

      All my apes gone!

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    Pro Tip: You don’t need to give a private company all of your passwords. That literally defeats the purpose of having passwords.

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    That’s an average of over 200k each. I’m wondering how they managed to target people with so much money.

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      I’d be worried about losing access to the entirety of your passwords if Google up and decides that one day your account is suspended. There’s been a few reports historically where someone gets their Gmail account suspended for some mistaken reason and all their associated access gets pulled (e.g. from drive, sheets, etc)

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          My Google account has been rock solid from the day I created it as a child

          Hopefully you were of legal age to accept the Terms of Service, otherwise it might’ve been an irregular account all this time.

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              If it was, and you haven’t accepted the ToS as of legal age, then you might want to make a new one.

              Google is getting ready to purge inactive accounts starting next year, and it wouldn’t be the first time when a service purged irregular accounts many years after the fact, so… better safe than sorry.

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      As a non-Google user, Lemmy is only “Chrome bad”. They’re “Android is the only way”

    • sab@lemmy.world
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      …so far.

      For those that don’t mind self-hosting, which can be as easy as just running syncthing or resilio sync on your NAS, I can really recommend keepass.

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        Me with interest, but no technical knowledge reading your comment:

        which can be as easy as

        :-)

        running syncthing or resilio sync on your NAS

        :-(

        I didn’t understand any of those words

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          edit - nevermind I can’t even format a comment, let alone self host a… Thingie. What the other guy said.

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          A NAS is a home storage server, like Synology that you can use to store images, videos and backups, etc on so you can access them from any computer or device in your home. With a couple of clicks, they can easily run applications like Syncthing or Resilio Sync, which are kinda like Dropbox, except you don’t have to pay Dropbox, you’ll just be storing the files on your own service.

          If that’s too much to handle, you can still just store your Keepass file in Dropbox, so that it’s available on all your devices. But in the end you’ll still be storing your personal data on someone else’s harddisk.

          So in short, is at easy as using a prefab service? No, you’ll have to invest some time, money, and knowledge yourself. But in the end, your data is not gathered in silo together with countless other users, which makes it a lot less attractive for hackers to try and steal it.

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          Self hosting is less appealing for criminals, though. Especially if the protocol is “vanilla” like ssh.

          When you hack LastPass you know what you’ll find, millions of passwords. When you hack a dude ssh you have one chance over one million that there is one dude password wallet.

          It doesn’t make financial sense to hack self hosting (unless it’s specific server software)

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    migrated my shit out of lastpass like 10 years ago or whenever it was bought by logmein. douches.

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      The idea is fine. Still trusting lastpass was the bad idea. Others have much better implementations to protector your vault and don’t drop the ball on security time after time.

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    After years as a family plan subscriber, I moved my personal (1k+) passwords off of LP after the last – and most egregious – breach. I have quite a bit self hosted in my environment but Proton Pass interests me as I can get my wife and son in it easily as we already have the family plan. Lemmy is loaded with tech savy, so my question is; same devil different form? I’ve tried BW but it wasn’t condusive to the whole familys use (at least not a few years ago).

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      If it is cloud hosted then there is always a possibility. Programs like keypass run locally and are only in jeopardy once your system is compromised. The issue with keypass is implementing it for multiple users is probably a chore (never looked into it).

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    All that promotion/awards tagging as best password manager for nothing. Glad I picked up KeyPassXC and KeyPassDX and sync between my phone and PC with gdrive

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      At first I was confused about why this was being downvoted, but then I noticed the “gdrive”. You’re using a different cloud to avoid this specific cloud.

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        I know google sucks but it’s easier to sync across and I have separate key file locally on both devices… 🤷

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    The only password manager I trust to connect to the internet is the Firefox manager, Keypass for the important stuff.

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    Is there any reason to use a password manager over just an excel spreadsheet?

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    The seeds are passphrases anyway. Just memorize them. Passphrases are so that they are easier to memorize.