Senator Warren calls out Apple for shutting down Beeper’s ‘iMessage to Android’ solution::U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is throwing her weight behind Beeper, the app that allowed Android users to message iPhone users via iMessage,

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    What’s the point of asking questions when this community just downvotes? Why even have a forum if it’s only use is to.upvote things that agree with your pre established opinions?

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    Why should our government care about this? I’ve been on android for over a decade now, I have 0 interest in this imessage bullshit and I don’t understand why our government representatives care

    What benefits are there to expanding this system? Why should they waste resources spending time on this?

    Also this community would rather just downvote than actually have a discussion. Engage with me instead of downvoting me this time, stop downvoting things you disagree with, this isn’t reddit. I’m contributing to the conversation and you have an opportunity to explain the reasons behind this

    Edit: thank you to all the people who took the time to answer my question

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      To make the phone and messaging market more competitive. It may not affect you but it does affect most android users.

      Also maybe she has an android, idk

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      Messaging interoperability between the two major mobile platforms greatly affects communication for those of us who have friends and family on the other platform. Cross-platform messaging allows us to communicate no matter which platform the friend or family member happened to buy. Blocking this feature is anti-competitive and detrimental to communication.

      The entire purpose of government is to help make society better for all of its members. Some government representatives may decide that ‘better for society’ would be to allow the corporation to maximize profit even if it harms the consumer. This particular politician believes that society would benefit from this interoperability and that the company may be overstepping anti-competitive monopoly boundaries by blocking it.

      Whether you agree with the idea or not, and whether it affects you personally or not is immaterial. It affects society at large and the government is supposed to represent members of its society.

      It’s nice that you either don’t use SMS or all of your family/friends are on Android, or you simply don’t have family/friends, but for the rest of us, we would like to send pictures to our grandma without her complaining that it’s pixelated and tiny because she has an iPhone. It has been frustrating for years, but now that a solution has been realized, it seems anti-competitive that one of the vendors is now trying to block the fix. Regardless, even if this fix remains blocked, we do have hope that iOS will get RCS in the near future.

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          I love third party messaging apps. It’s quite a bit more difficult to get every single extended family member on board. 2nd cousin I see at a family reunion every year or two? “Hit me up some time! Just install this app on your phone first and sign up for an account!”

          I’ll get on board with this one if all phone manufacturers start installing signal as their default messaging app.

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      It’s not a messaging thing it’s an anti-trust thing. And for all the times I agree with Warren, I think she’s wrong here.

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    Apple is a private company what business does the gov have here?

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      Same reason the EU forced apple to change to usb-c. It benefits consumers.

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        Apple is already adopting RCS. There’s no benefit here other than to spammers looking for a backdoor into iMessage.

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          You seem confident about “no benefit here”. Are you sure about that or is that the flavor of the boot polish that you are tasting?

          Also, “backdoor into iMessage”, wtf?

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            Proprietary, closed source, third-party software that hasn’t been audited by a third party, that’s hooking into another proprietary protocol without the owner of said protocol’s approval.

            Sounds to me like Apple fixed a security vulnerability they were exploiting to gain access to the platform. Honestly it reminds me of Microsoft and AOL with the AIM and MSN Messenger wars. I believe AIM used a buffer overflow on purpose for authentication, despite it being a serious security vulnerability.

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      The US is not a libertarian society. Private businesses play within the guardrails set by the people and their elected representatives.

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    Mass murdering brown kids? Go ahead champ, here are a few more billions so you can keep doing and it’s antisemitic to call me out for it.

    Cant get my blue bubble??? Now wait a fucking minute champ 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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        Are you stupid or just pretending to be? She isnt doing 2 things at once, that’s exactly the problem and the point was: “priorities”.

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      Yeah, how can they discuss two (2!) subjects at the same time over there??? I don’t even have strong opinions one way or the other but had to call out your lazy whataboutism.

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        Are you stupid or just pretending to be? She isnt doing 2 things at once, that’s exactly the problem and the point was: “priorities”.

        “Whataboutism” = someone who discovered politics on twitter with bad cheetos orange man

        “I don’t have an opinion on genocide”. That’s cool, dude. Pro tip: don’t advertise that in good society.

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          I was being sarcastic. We all have issues we care about, and one of the dumbest things you could do with that is screaming that someone is not giving it the right amount of attention. It’s dumb, because you can always kill conversation with it, so anyone using that conversation tactic only uses it for that purpose, or because they are dumb.

          “Oh you like eating normal food!?!? Don’t you know some folk in poor countries have no food at all!?!?.” -Someone just like you, commenting on a How To video about cooking Chicken Handi.

          I was making fun of you, because your comment was dumb.