Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes::Kayak customers can exclude Max 9 aircraft after cabin panel blowout on Alaska Airlines flight

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    10 months ago

    Seems small but something like this could kill this plane as a passenger jet if enough people are avoiding em.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      I’m all for it to be honest. The 737 Max sounds like a death trap, and until Boeing is banned from certifying their own planes nobody should be flying in these IMO.

      The FAA needs to start certifying these themselves again, and remove the existing loopholes/exemptions that allow some design changes to avoid recertification

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      10 months ago

      Hardly likely. If enough people start doing it, either airlines will start hiding the plane model, or boeing will rename it after some marketing to show things have changed, and the world will move on.

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        10 months ago

        I agree with you on this one. There’s public sentiment and then there’s market reality. The hard truth is that most people have a need for a practical flight route within a certain window and there’s limited choices. Delta, United, etc. only have so many aircraft servicing so many routes and they already bought the aircraft and have to use them. While I’d personally like to avoid the 737 MAX, if it’s the only feasible choice, then that’s the one I gotta roll the dice on. I guess I’ll avoid window seats if possible.

      • bluemellophone@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Nah, they will simply sell the planes to other markets. I’m sure there are plenty of non-US airlines willing to gobble up planes at a discount. The pundit and lobby machine would get engaged and magically there would be a big industry bailout to cover the losses.

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          10 months ago

          The US is where they’re getting away with murder on their certification process. If the FAA cracks down on them, the world will follow the FAA’s guidance.

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    10 months ago

    Too bad if you’re already booked and the airline company changes the plane on you…

    • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      Genuine question. Could somebody legally demand a refund at that point the flight was different than sold as?

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    A bit of clickbait. Yes they’ve added the option to filter out 737 Max 9, but also a bunch of older Boeing and Airbus planes

    I just checked this myself:

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      10 months ago

      The last few incidents with the MAX series has me on edge with them. I fly planes myself (GA) and am an aviation geek. It’s only 3 incidents but it seems like they rushed the MAX out too quickly to compete with Airbus. I could be really wrong.

      The MAX 8 series was the one where they had additional software to correct the climb and this caused two accidents of total loss in passenger planes Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopians Flight 302.

      Between March 2017 and March 2019, the global fleet of 387 aircraft operated 500,000 flights and experienced two fatal crashes, having a fatal accident rate of four accidents per million flights, whereas the previous Boeing 737 generations averaged 0.2 fatal accidents per million flights.

      Then we have the MAX 9 that had a door blow off because of a missing door plug. Thankfully, no deaths and only minor injuries.

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        If Boeing were extremely smart, they would replace the 737 with a net new design serving the same market segment. The 737 just sits too low to the ground. The giant LEAP engines were shoehorned on where they shouldn’t have been and two planes full of people are dead because of it. With the open rotor engines likely to be the next evolution, I’m not even sure they couldn’t put those on the 737.

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        10 months ago

        Add in that the 737-900ER has the same door plug design, it makes me wonder if it is rational to fear the Max 9 specifically. I would actually prefer to fly a max 9 that was forced to have a recent inspection instead of the older 737-900ER that recently had scrutiny for the same door if my fear was the door plug itself.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t see the 737 Max being taken off the market even with these options and rebranding wont help as airlines will still list the new model which will be publicly announced by Boeing. So what’s the market adjustment going to be? Cheaper fare? I can honestly see people surging to buy a seat on this deathcraft if prices fall enough. It’ll be like choosing between organic and pesticide-riddled.

  • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    How about just Boeing entirely? The Max planes have been problematic, but what about the 757’s having doors blow open mid flight or missing bolts or loose bolts? The issue with Boeing is getting so bad, Bombardier in Canada is starting to actually do business again.

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    10 months ago

    If it’s not Boeing then who? Santoclose? Airbus? China?

    Obviously they fucked up. Unfortunately they are the competition. This is what happens when there’s a monopoly.

    I say, fuck Google and Amazon and get those monopolies in check.

    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      If it’s not Boeing then who? Santoclose? Airbus? China?

      Airbus. Easy answer. I’d rather fly on an A320 than a 737 anyway, especially an A320neo vs 737max.