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    10 months ago

    I think the down-votes illustrates my point exactly.

    I’m pro expression of freedom, full bodily automony (my body, my choice), anti censorship, reign in corporate power, higher top marginal tax, ending foreign wars (inc Ukraine), diplomacy with every government (inc the ones labeled terrorists. Remember; Nelson Mandela was also labeled a terrorist), tax included high education, tax included healthcare, more money to public transport.

    Well thats some of it, and most of the first points are traditional left-wing issues, but in todays society, you get “right-wing” label immediately.

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      10 months ago

      Right vs left is about Capitalism vs Socialism, and generally upholding hierarchy vs abolishing it.

      You would not get labeled right wing based on those views unless you had other nonsense going on in tandem.

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        10 months ago

        I would absolutely agree with you on your first paragraph.

        But please answer this honestly, “my body, my choice” during covid was labeled “right-wing”, you agree?

        Doing diplomacy with Putin to end Ukraine war was also labeled “right-wing” putin puppet talking points, no?

        Both these are traditional left-wing values.

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          10 months ago

          “My body, my choice” was not a right-wing stance. It was instead an anti-science movement. If you just listen to the words, its easy to think it might be leftist, but the intent behind it was absolutely far-right. A good comparison is “All Lives Matter” or even “White Lives Matter” as a response to “Black Lives Matter.”

          Diplomacy with Putin to end the war can be right or left. Opposing Imperialism is left wing, what matters is the way you wish to conduct diplomacy, and to what outcome.

          So yea, good chance you could be right wing.

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            10 months ago

            Here are the rules in Norway from our FHI.

            https://www.fhi.no/va/vaksinasjonsveilederen-for-helsepersonell/vaksinasjon/lover-og-regler-ved-vaksinasjon/?term=#vaksinasjon-er-frivillig

            Vaksinasjon er frivillig All vaksinasjon i Norge er frivillig. Personer som anbefales eller ber om vaksine må få tilstrekkelig informasjon om fordeler og ulemper ved vaksinering til å kunne ta et informert valg. Det skal også være åpenhet om usikkerhet og kunnskap som mangler.

            Translate it and see for yourself.

            If you are to the left of someone, and they are not informed, they will call you right-wing.

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                10 months ago

                I thought I would be nicer to you than I was to the previous guy I answered. I wrote; “Translate it and weep”. Here is the translation;

                Vaccination is voluntary. All vaccination in Norway is voluntary. People who are recommended or ask for a vaccine must be given sufficient information about the advantages and disadvantages of vaccination to be able to make an informed choice. There must also be openness about uncertainty and possible lack of knowledge.

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                    10 months ago

                    “its easy to think it might be leftist, but the intent behind it was absolutely far-right.”

                    I provided an example of a far-left, very articulate answer to refute this. If i were you, I would stop and reflect on this.

                    I cannot make you care, only you can do that.

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            10 months ago

            “Believe in science”, that’s anti-science. “My body, my choice” has always been in context of abortion, and viewed as left wing. Here it’s the exact same words, the exact same meaning in context of taking an experimental redefined definition of a vaccine. It’s in this setting that characters make or breaks. If you cannot uphold your values when they matter, you don’t have values, you have hobbies.