Chinese hackers are determined to ‘wreak havoc’ on US critical infrastructure, FBI director warns::FBI Director Chris Wray has told House lawmakers that Chinese government hackers are busily targeting critical infrastructure inside the United States, including water treatment plants, the electrical grid and transportation systems.

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    10 months ago

    The whole “Is hacking an act of war?” thing needs to be seriously reconsidered. Of course, if the US decided it was, they would be guilty of so many acts of war. And it’s not just the US. Everybody is trying to hack everybody and acting like killing people by bringing down a power grid is somehow different than killing people by dropping a bomb. The outcome is the same: You did something that intentionally killed people.

    Of course saying that hacking is an act of war opens up a huge can of worms. Suddenly small time hackers are being charged with or framed for war crimes.

    It’s a delicate issue, but I think it is worth revisiting.

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      10 months ago

      You are correct. It would open a can of worms and many countries are comfortable keeping acts undefined. I watched a documentary called Zero Days and learned about how cyberwarfare worked in the past. I can imagine AI is going to take it to a new level. The documentary was called Zero Days, if anyone else is interested. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5446858/

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        10 months ago

        I will definitely check it out. A lot of what I have heard is from the podcast “Darknet Diaries”. I feel like it is pretty commonly known around here but, man… It exposed me to a lot of things that I did not know were going on. And that’s what is currently public information. What is not public information is probably way way worse. Another commenter below mentioned something about countries spying on countries, but what is currently happening in the digital warfare realm is way more than spying. As the OP article goes into, we are talking about attacks on infrastructure. That is not spying. The line needs to be drawn somewhere. Like… Attempted murder is a crime. Why is attempted hacking on infrastructure that would kill a bunch of people not a war crime?

        The concept of war is changing rapidly in the age of information. Why would you deploy boots on the ground when you can use technology to break down a country from the inside?

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      10 months ago

      Actual diplomats, where the rubber meets the road, are not going to use the word war.

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    10 months ago

    I read somewhere they have trouble hiring hackers because they ask if they’ve ever done drugs including weed and it’s an automatic deal breaker for the old farts running the hiring process. Also the pay is shit compared to what they can make in the private sector. I guess leaning on patriotism isn’t working anymore.

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      I don’t think it’s a deal-breaker for the government employees running the hiring process. Trust me, I know some UK civil servants and after the initial drugs test, most of them were very happy to resume their various indulgences.

      The trouble is that you can’t be seen to employ someone to work for the federal government when they are technically committing a federal felony.

      I reckon the vast majority from the lower level employees to the higher ups would LOVE to have weed, LSD, and other recreational drugs at least de-scheduled if not legalised, regulated, and taxed.

      It’s politically difficult, especially in a country as socially right-wing as the US (on average, I’m aware attitudes vary from state to state).

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    10 months ago

    Why do I imagine all those critical infrastructure sites still using Windows 95, maybe a few WinXP