Google’s CEO faces employee questions about layoffs — “Why has there been such an extraordinary effort to limit the internal visibility of layoffs announcements?”::During a recent TGIF all-hands meeting, Google CEO Sundar Pichai addressed what sources describe as a growing morale crisis inside the company.
Each and every one of us deserves a union.
Each and every one of us deserves to work for a company that cares enough about its employees that they don’t need a union.
That failing, we need protection from the companies we work for and the only viable opportunity at this point are in fact unions.
Edit: Jesus should I take it back and say that everyone deserves to work for a shithole company with no union protection? I said it would be fucking nice if companies could be nice but unions are needed for protection. Either you’re all corporate boot flickers or you can’t read for s***.
That’s not how relations between employers and employees work.
It’s like saying you don’t need a democracy if the king cares enough about his subjects.
It might work for a time, but the power balance is such that you can’t rely on the goodwill of leaders alone.
Believe it or not, there are jobs out there that do work that way. It’s generally not in public corporations.
That’s why I also said failing that we do need unions.
he’s not saying there aren’t any companies that do right to their employees at this current moment. he’s saying if left unchecked, it leaves room for somebody to come in and make it bad for everyone. that being said, we’ve already failed. we need union.
So is that significantly different for me saying it would be nice if we could do that but that feeling we need unions?
It’s different because you seem to be saying “workers should be able to be incredibly vulnerable to the whims of employers because employers should be good people”. The other guy’s response to that is “why would we ever assume employers are going to be good to their employees absent any mechanism to enforce said good behavior?”
I didn’t say that at all.
I’ve been working in tech for close to thirty years now mostly with larger tech and financial companies. For my parent’s and grandparent’s generation, you could reasonably expect lifetime employment at the same company. Work well and you’ll be treated well.
This started to change when I began working in the 90s and especially after the 2001 and 2008 recessions. Since then, it’s gotten much worse.
Companies don’t want to treat all employees well anymore, just their top talent that they want to retain. Who cares what the rest think because they’re transient anyway and won’t be around for more than a few years. Build around your top people and view the others as interchangeable parts.
Don’t bother investing in the rest of your employees. Just hire when needed, fire those you don’t like, who aren’t a good fit, and who are too old. Firing is one of their top tools if they want a quick cost reduction to boost their stock price.
Maintaining the upper hand of the employee/employer power dynamic is much more desirable than properly treating the people who work for you. If the employees don’t like it, they know where the door is. They’re replaceable anyway. That’s why employees have lost the RTO battles.
As an older worker, I despise how cutthroat the corporate world is now. I feel like I’m about to be tossed out with the trash.
I worked at a big company, after 16 years they let me and many of my coworkers go. I ended up at a late stage start up. They were starting to become more “corporate”. Now I work at an early stage start up. They actually care. I am not sure I will ever take a job with a company that is publicly traded again.
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Sundar is not a good CEO
No joke, I think he should be tried for crimes against humanity for how he’s lead the merciless sodomizing of of our access to actual information.
If found guilty then he should have a chance to walk out unscathed. Five obscure questions. One computer. One elaborate limb removal device.
For every obscure piece of information he can actually find the answer to within the first 100 pages of results (don’t you wish the other pages were real now, you fucking sack of shit?) He loses a limb. If he can’t find the info at least once, he gets to watch his limbs get cut off one before it’s off with his head and into the nearest, largest sack pile of actual shit we can forget his worthless body parts in.
It would be on youtube and the special would be like 8 hours long. The ad revenue and their utter lack of a sould would keep the executives engaged enough to not repeat his mistakes.
As if Sundar gives a fuck.
Also I don’t know if this counts as internalized racism but I think Indian CEOs are mostly yes men trying to implement as much rent seeking as possible. Adobe, Microsoft, Google. 3 major tech companies which have been heavily pushing subscriptions but haven’t released any innovative product.
Being a bit closer to the C-Level of a larger company, I can assert that greed, lack of vision and jumping on bandwagons is not exclusive to one nationality.
Yes but I feel like my countrymen are much more prone to people-pleasing (or in this case board-pleasing) because of our culture. We’re just expected to bow to authority.
We’re just expected to bow to authority.
Even if you’re the authority yourself? Also: that sounds like a great place for con-men 🤔
Even if you’re the authority yourself?
CEOs like this let the board control them instead of convincing board members of their plans.
And yeah, great place for con-men, especially of the religious variety.
Down-voting this without commenting is anti intellectual
In general, no, it isn’t. It’s for comments that aren’t worthy of a response. In your case, it’s because of the racism.
“that’s racist” doesn’t exactly take much effort
If you’re judging comments based mainly on how long they are, you should be grading high school essays about Jane Eyre, not trying to participate in an adult conversation.
You missed the point. I’m saying that some comment is better than none to explain your position or rationality
That’s what all companies do. It’s always a surprise, and it’s done that way in order to control the situation. That’s why when you quit, it should also be a surprise. Fuck them.
Don’t work for evil
We have so many laid off engineers that if they were to band together to form a company with all the knowledge they have, I’m sure they’ll be better than the company they worked for.
Archived version: https://archive.is/jJAMw
Why do the employees bother asking him questions that they already know the answer to in the pit of their stomachs?
I hate to think so many in the field of tech could be so naive of the world around them.
