Just use Firefox.
Firefox + uBlock Origin + arkenfox user.js gives you privacy, security and anti-tracking. The only way to fly IMO.
And a Pi Hole for good measure.
A dns blocker cannot do anything more than ublock. It is nice for other apps though.
A DNS blocker is great for other devices on your network!
It works very well on browser and outside the browser. So if your software/hardware is phoning home, it will pick it up.
OpenWRT router with DNS over HTTPS for the whole network. Come for the easy adblock, stay for the updated router distribution and the best anti-buffer bloat features in any Router software.
White list firewall. Because this is the real reason everyone has a right to ad block. Ads are hidden links to other websites. It’s like walking through a gauntlet of pick pockets bribing the credit card company just to make it to the checkout at your local grocery store, or some asshole you invite into your home that goes to the bathroom, opens a window, and lets a dozen random people in your home if they pay a dollar for the access. The entire system is based on stalking people. It is criminal.
What does Arkenfox do? I’ll definitely add it if it’s beneficial.
It changes many default Firefox preferences in
about:config
to be as private as possible. The main selling point is resist fingerprinting (RFP). I highly suggest reading the wiki. It can break some websites, but you can configure it to fit your needs.Sounds interesting. I’ll definetely check it out. Thanks!
Is this applicable for Firefox mobile?
According to the GitHub page the user.js is for desktop only but ublock should still work.
Why not add Snowflake while we’re at it?
I bounced between the two for years, i guess i am going back to Firefox full time.
Same. I had no idea about brave and I started using it full time on all my devices like a month ago. Guess I’m going back to Firefox. Which was fine.
I’ve switched on Desktop a year ago. Also with Android. But Firefox on Android has an odd bug that I cannot get rid of. Pages are really slow to load on initial render. I’ve noticed it gets stuck on the SSL cert verification step, sometimes around 5 to 10 seconds before it starts painting the page.
I’ve tried disabling all add-ons, logging out of Firefox sync, disabling the built in HTTPS everywhere, and literally any custom settings I’ve added. But I can’t get past this issue and seemingly no one else has it.
Chrome doesn’t present this issue.
I’ve never encountered this, which makes me realise I’ve been running Firefox beta for ages (with zero issues). Perhaps try that just in case it helps?
Same issue here! I thought I was alone. It annoys me to no end and weirder still, issue doesn’t present itself with Firefox for Windows running behind the same IP.
Firefox Focus also doesn’t seem to present the issue. Just the primary Firefox browser for Android. And honestly, often enough that it’s nearly unusable.
If you ever figure it out, please let me know.
I don’t have that issue on Mull, so maybe try that?
You’re not alone, I’ve been using Firefox on Android for two years now, and I’ve had this problem from the beginning. The first time I launch Firefox and load a page it stops a quarter of the progression bar for ten seconds, and then loads fine. Once pas that everything works perfectly. It’s very annoying and I don’t know why this happens.
+1 for that issue, you are not alone :)
Just moved from Brave to Firefox when that “AI training” story came out. I think it’s faster than brave now
Doesn’t Firefox do telemetry and other shady shit out of the box? Ofc you can turn it off but I don’t get the fanaticism over this browser.
The fact that they have (at least for now) foregone implementing Manifest v3 should be reason enough to use Firefox. Turn their telemetry off and use ublock origin, call it a day well spent.
If you’re inclined to, use Librewolf with ublock, NoScript, decentraleyes, and chameleon.
Copy the bypasspaywalls sites into ublock, add a redirect extension to avoid all the idiot megacorps, and use duckduckgo lite and learn to use shebangs for very fast web searching.
Yeah it’s not perfect out of the box but after turning off telemetry and adding some add-ons like ublock origin and such it’s one of the best short of going full on tor/mullvad. And still less fanaticism than brave lol
With brave I never see any pc or YouTube ads. With Firefox even with ublock origin I can’t get rid of those damn ads. That’s what keeps me on brave
Firefox and mozilla aren’t your friend.
They like to play the “user and privacy friendly” company. Meanwhile they are hemoraging users, and laying off staff needed to actually build a great browser.
Mozilla ceo pay increase + layoffs in 2020:
In 2018 she received a total of $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla, which represents a 400% payrise since 2008. On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated “I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That’s too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to.”
In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, her salary had risen to over $3 million. In the same year the Mozilla Corporation laid off approximately 250 employees due to shrinking revenues. Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic.
They don’t need to be my friend to be better than the chromium browsers though, so I don’t know what this has to do with anything
The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they’re literally just trying to make their own adsense network.
The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.
And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it “Basic Attent Tokens”…
TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you’ll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.
The fact that their founder wants to ban gay marriage is enough reason for me to avoid it like the plague.
He fucking what?
He made a thousand dollar donation in support of proposition 8, a constitutional amendment in California that strips gay people of the right to marry. He then proceeded to argue that such a donation does not make him a bigot or an enemy of LGBTQ+ people, because he’s a delusional piece of filth.
This effectively prevented gay people from marrying in California from 2008 to 2013 until the fascists that supported it were finally done trying to argue how this doesn’t violate the US constitution.
So yeah, may he, his browser, and any pathethic excuse that pretends to be human being who supported this abomination rot in the deepest depths forever.
From his Blog post where he defends stripping same-sex couples of their equal right to marry.
“I refrain from putting my personal beliefs in others’ way. I hope for the same in return.”
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I have absolutely no idea how Brave got the reputation it has. It’s business model is disgusting and extortionate, it’s like paying for warez. Been clear as day since day one.
At one point they were scummy enough to automatically add their referral codes to any Amazon link you see. Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave, and that’s what’s wrong in general with the “but the UX is so nice” mentality.
Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave
It starts to feel astroturfed at a certain point. The last week or so has been crazy.
At one point they were scummy enough to automatically add their referral codes to any Amazon link you see.
To be clear, that means Brave is ① invading their users’ privacy, and ② stealing money from web publishers.
The point of referral codes is to reward web publishers for referring users to a product; leading to the user buying a product that they otherwise wouldn’t.
Your browser isn’t introducing you to a product. For it to insert referral codes for the browser vendor’s benefit is stealing money.
Its almost like UX is one of the most important things for a user of any given program. 🥴
If you really dig into the whole ordeal it was a software error, not some malicious idea to steal links from creators.
How exactly does one accidentally insert affiliate data on links? At some point someone wrote that code, which is malicious in itself, even if the activation was accidental.
It’s also strange that it happened twice, first with amazon links, then they started injecting affiliate data for crypto platforms instead.
Yeah, fuck this guy.
First, I have been online for almost 30 years. I’ve led an open source project for 14 years. I speak regularly at conferences around the world, and socialize with members of the Mozilla, JavaScript, and other web developer communities. I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity.
So I hid my hatred from everyone for 30 years successfully. Now that everyone finds out that I donated to a cause to strip them of rights everyone wants to say I’m hateful? Give me one example where I displayed hatred…how about the time you donated to strip people of their rights? That might be a big one for me.
Can we talk about technology already and stop talking about what happen between 2 persons in a room PLEASE???
The fact that its main 2 gimmicks are a shitty ad blocker and integrated cryptocurrency should be enough of a red flag, honestly. Just use Firefox, people!
I downloaded it just yesterday, and I uninstalled it after reading this article. Back to Firefox for me!
Firefox doesn’t block ads on my iPad. Only reason I still use brave
You can install add-ons, at least on the android version. One of them is Ublock!
Firefox is significantly slower though…
Not really that significant when you’re using it, I promise. I’m usually all for speed, but FF has better functionality than the competition.
Speed is significant though. “Functionality” (whatever you mean by that) is less important.
Built-in features are much better, respects privacy (compared to Google), add-ons have more possibilities, etc.
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So the CEO is a raging alt-righter. Glad I never used his product then.
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Firefox is king 👑
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That or DuckDuckGo’s new browser.
Today I learned that people take it VERY PERSONALLY when you criticize their chosen browser. 😂
Except for Internet Explorer. Because everyone can agree on: “What a piece of shit that was”…
We already had 2 browser wars.
Thanks. Whenever I raised the issue of homophobia or his general support of right-wing causes that threaten people’s privacy (see the aftermath of Roe v. Wade for example), I got downvoted, be it on the PrivacyGuides sub where they adore the browser, or right here just weeks ago.
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you saying that from an openly radical leftist instance is intriguing.
Things wrong with Brave: #1- It isn’t Firefox/a Firefox derivative
I just use Firefox and DuckDuckGo
You might want to explore librewolf. It’s built on Firefox but with more privacy features.
Oh boy, this comment section is gonna be spicy. I can already smell the smoke from the Brave enthusiasts heads exploding.
Oh yeah they’ve been freaking out, and a surprising number of right wingers
I left brave 2 years ago. Never looked back lol.
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It does make you a transphobic bigot. My earlier post to a comment you made is no longer appearing so I’ll restate. Get out of your bubble and get your head out of your ass, to which you replied “no u”, like a toddler. I am out of my bubble actually. I’m a straight, white, cis male who grew up in a small farming town. Took some time to overcome the “values” that I grew up with but I managed.
Never once have I felt attacked, fearful or even remotely threatened by anyone who is lgbtqia+ and no, the lgbtqia+ aren’t targeting kids. I’m not saying there couldn’t have been instances of individuals within that group but no more so than any other group. For instance, how is your outrage at the church? Are you attacking every institution that has ever had a pedophile in their ranks? Basically don’t try to cherry-pick data because there’s more to refute your arguments.
You’re too stupid and scared to realize that you’re being radicalized by disinformation. I’m sure you’ll never change but maybe you’ll stop drinking the kool-aid some day. The only solace the rest of us have is that our society progresses, even with people like you as dead weight.
I’ve read the article via Firefox, with NoScript enabled. Am I doing this right?
Don’t bother with NoScript. Just use uBlock Origin, it is capable of blocking scripts as well, and with finer control than NoScript is capable of.
nope not quite as effective in my opinion. also I use them both, ah ah ah. Anyways, Brave founder seems to be Javascript creator, so… NoScript seems more adequate as a joke.
NoScript blocks scripts per domain. uBlock Origin can block scripts per domain, per site, and per script. So you can block any script from Google across the whole web, except on their own sites, rendering their tracking inoperable. So in this, I’m sorry to say but your opinion is objectively wrong. uBlock has more functionality and finer control than is possible with NoScript. In fact, uBlock is the most powerful security plugin available for browsers. Turn on script blocking and advanced mode, and you don’t need anything else to protect your browser.
I’m in web dev, not quite the front end guy I have to admit. Blocking a whole site it’s more effective. full stop. site isn’t working? not sure I’m losing anything. furthermore I can whitelist my localhost during dev allowing google/facebook/twitter/etc. stuff for example, and remove it anywhere else. add that I browse only in private. also as I said, i have ublock enabled side by side with noscript: I need to fine tune something? well I have my options, you know. so no, my opinion is not objectively wrong. it’s just that we have radically different needs: you want to have the (most legitimate) chance to spend time filtering script by script, I need to be quick around things. It’s my way better than yours? prolly not, but that vm helps me a lot. peace.
Seconded. uBlock origin is ridiculously powerful and configurable. It can DRAMATICALLY speed up site loading while only occasionally breaking functionality. Typically if the site is entirely JavaScript rendered like reddit.
It’s definitely the most powerful plugin of any kind, for any browser.
I prefer bypass paywalls clean, it does a better job of surgically removing the paywall even if the site is actively trying to stop you from disabling javascript.
I’ll try it. thank you
Give uMatrix a try over NoScript, there’s a bit of a learning curve to it but it’s a lot more powerful.
I’ll try it. thank you
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