• EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world
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    Romaina, Slovenia, ohh I wanna take ya

    To Serbia, Montenegro, baby why do we go

    To Bosnia, Croatia, why do we just make it

    Down to Kosovo, they’ll shoot you fast and you’ll bleed out slow, thats how I wanna go

    Get shot in Kosovo!

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      That was after Tito died. He never would have let something like that happen if he was still alive.

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          Hey, I never said he was a saint. Plus this was pre WWII, partisans were already being recruited and yes, they hated Germans… because Gremans hated Slavs. You know what the Nazi plan was? One, eliminate Jews, two, eliminate gypsies, three, elimites slavs. We were on the elimination list, no doubt there. Just because we weren’t immidiately exterminated doesn’t mean our turn wouldn’t have came after the Nazis were done with the previous two on the list. You know how many slavs died in labour camps, doing Nazi bidding? My guess is, Tito did this to try and scare the Nazis away from the Balkans… can’t say for certain, but I do know that he was the leader of a federation with over 6 different nations in it, he never once showed pereference or hate for one or another. Sure, things needed to be balanced, so sometimes one came first, others second, third, etc., but in general, he really did try and treat everyone as equal.

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              Sorry, I meant after the end… got mixed up (it was late).

              Dude, this wasn’t before WWII, this was after the end of the war. Around 175,000 people whose families had lived there for a couple hundred years and spoke German for historical reasons were ethnically cleansed from Yugoslavia.

              Hm, wonder why someone who spoke German on a teritory occupied by the Germans during WWII would be cleansed from that place 🤔…

              A few hundred thousand people had to flee the country and walk to Germany or otherwise make their way to places like North America.

              People hated Germans after WWII. My guess is, he was just trying to keep a clean slate, not let history repeat itself. There was enough bloodshed on the Balkans, it’s time for piece… and people speaking German RIGHT AFTER WWII in a place you’re trying to make into a federation and let everyone live in piece… yeah, I kinda get his reasoning.

              Sure Tito wasn’t Hitler, but he definitely walked in his footsteps.

              You didn’t live here, you have no idea how things were. It was nice, people had piece… not just bought piece, it was the true meaning of the word, something that hasn’t happened in centuries here. Agreed, that has to come at a cost, but the US does it every day and they rarely get backlash for it.

              Sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. It’s that simple. This is true in any society. People that don’t agree with that society’s leaders and strategies can make problems for them. Why make their lives harder.

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      - OK, let’s see today’s mail… oh, this guy says he’s not a crackpot, huh… OK, maybe I should do what he says.

      - Mr. President, you do remember what happened last time you listened to someone who sais he was not a crackpot 😒.

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    I’m sure they had no idea what they were doing when they randomly circled the Balkans and presupposed that there was no problem with their proposal.

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    Meanwhile I’m here thinking it would be nice if the whole world was made up of countries of that size with a global alliance that will fuck up any country that starts getting all imperialistic.

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      Pretty sure Americans are gonna do that soon. Then we can convince MAGAland to pay to build a wall around itself

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    They’re not entirely wrong… Quite a bit of the division comes from pre-modern events and decisions.

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    Almost all of the US states that have more cows than people share borders.

    They should all be merged into one state.

    This would solve many problems.

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      See, that’s a nice idea… and it did work… for a while… without religion and nationalists in the mix… once you mix those 2, guess what happens…

      The moral of the story is, it is doable… but you’d have to either get rid of the 2 things mentioned above, or historically you’d have to be a clean slate, which is pretty easy for the continents discovered in the last 5 centuries or so.

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    How did Tito keep the peace? He wasn’t magical. You would think he successors could have done the same.