College student put on academic probation for using Grammarly: ‘AI violation’::Marley Stevens, a junior at the University of North Georgia, says she was wrongly accused of cheating.

  • owenfromcanada@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I’ve been at the front of the classroom–using tools like TurnItIn is fine for getting “red flags,” but I’d never rely on just tools to give someone a zero.

    First, unless you’re in a class with a hundred people, the professor would have a general idea as to whether you’re putting in effort–are they attentive? Do they ask questions? And an informal talk with the person would likely determine how well they understand the content in the paper. Even for people who can’t articulate well, there are questions you can ask that will give you a good feel for whether they wrote it.

    I’ve caught cheaters several times, it’s not that hard. Will a few slide through? Yes, but they will regardless of how many stupid AI tools you use. Give the students the benefit of the doubt and put in some effort, lazy profs.

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      Same, and discussed with my lecturers.

      Especially 1st year business - we use the same text book as the last 10 years (just different versions), where nothing has really changed in the last 30 odd years, using the same template that runs through 600 odd students a year, where nearly every student uses the same easy three references that we used in class.

      Its new to you, but no one is going to have an original idea or anything revolutionary in that assessment.

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    Here where I live using AI detection tools is not allowed because they are not 100% correct, which means they might flag an innocent student.

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      9 months ago

      “It is better that one hundred innocent college students fail a class than that one guilty college student write a paper with AI.” - Benjamin Academic

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    Something my instructors could never explain to me is what Turnitin does with the content of papers after they’re scanned. How long are they kept? Are they used for verifying anyone else’s work? I didn’t consent to any of that. When someone runs for office 20 years later are they going to leak old papers? Are they selling that data to other AI trainers? That’s some fucking bullshit. It needs to be out of the classroom for more reasons than just false positives.

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      I remember seeing some fine print when signing agreements for my college that any papers I write are intellectual property of the school. I’m guessing that’s standard nowadays.

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    So the teacher uses an unreliable AI tool to do his job, to teach a student a lesson about allegedly using an AI tool to do her work, and the only evidence he has is “this proprietary block box language model says you plagiarized this assignment”. No actual plagerism to cite, just a computer generated response arbitrarily making accusations. What’s the lesson here? AI models are so unreliable, when we use them we punish you for things you didn’t do, so don’t you dare use them for schoolwork?

    It has a 1% false positive rate. If you have students turn in 20 assignments each semester, 1 in 5 students will get disciplined for plagiarism they didn’t commit. All because a teacher was too lazy to do his job without blindly accepting the results of an AI tool, while pretending that they are against such things as a matter of academic integrity…

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    I remember when grammar and spellcheck tools became available, it was hilarious running well-known texts through them and accepting all the changes.