I don’t understand the people hating on Sync just as much as I don’t understand the people hating posts criticizing sync.
It’s an app. Let people use what they want to use lmao. Growth for Lemmy is a good thing regardless
As a former Reddit user of sync pro. I’m one of those people who just enjoys the UI so much that I’m willing to support the dev. It’s easy to say “pay for it” to make it look worse, but I appreciate the work he’s put into it.
I agree, there is nothing wrong with getting paid for your work. It is a high quality app which should be appreciated by the lemmy community since it helps them grow.
I legitimately could not get into Lemmy with any of the other apps. They just all felt wrong.
But I used Lemmy more on the first day the app came out than I did since I made my account two months ago. Best part is it feels just like Sync for Reddit did, including all the great features.
The only reason I haven’t paid yet for no ads is that I’m waiting to see how much I like it. I might even pay for Ultra if they provide a discount for buying it with the Reddit app.
I’m using it right now. Working just fine so far, exactly the same as the reddit version, and I haven’t been asked to pay $20 for it.
Connect seems good enough to me
Infinity for Lemmy <3
Infinity for Lemmy <3
infinity for lemmy is out posting this from infinity.
Infinity is better, dev has done a really good job porting this to lemmy. I feel the lemmy version is even smoother than the reddit one
Wow, thanks for the good news! I heard the dev wasn’t very happy to redo infinity for lemmy but this change things. Great.
A different dev has forked it, not the same dev as infinity for reddit.
well I’m testing like 5 6 apps for lemmy rn. I’ll settle with one maybe after a year or two when everything settles down. rn I’ll say sync ui is fluid and rich but still incomplete. infinity felt better than reddit client which I’ll completely agree with you.
Yeah sync is better of all right now without a doubt but I’m still keeping all 7 of them. Lemming seems to be gone from github.
i just tested these apps and I’ll say connect works really better for replying to comments. all those apps just showed me what was the reply not the parent thread. which is quite frustrating also.
Edit: tested this on summit also works really good for context rest of those apps need to improve inbox section. without context i can’t just reply to a comment.
Infinity Gang Rise Up
I’m just happy we have all of these choices.
The FOSS apps are fantastic already and Sync is there if you want that too.
Based neutral take
Yeah let’s just support Lemmy developers maybe?
Supporting your app dev, lemmy devs, and your instance owner are all good.
Obviously, don’t stretch yourself too thin out of obligation either.
The ads aren’t even working yet lol it’s still in beta. I don’t get why everyone is complaining.
People complaining seem to be in 2 camps:
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This is not FOSS and thus is bad.
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The pricing is too expensive.
For either case people are free to not use the app. Surely the existence of an app that makes the Lemmy experience so much better is a good thing. This grows the Lemmy universe.
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That an app would even consider ads is offensive. Pay or don’t use? Fine. But offer an ads tier? Hell no.
Boomer mentality, no thinking of the future.
I like the 20$ app-free version. Sounds like a solid business idea 🤔.
For 20$ even YOU can get
NOTHING
This meme is dumb. There are more options than just the web ui and sync, most are free.
Voyager is free and the pwa feels close to a native app.
Voyager just started their TestFlight app version a few days ago and it’s really great (on iOS.) It added haptic feedback which is very nice, and fixes the freezing issue. Otherwise it’s identical, I think. I’d guess there will be an android app sometime.
I’m also testing Memmy and using Mlem - both are coming along great, but Voyager app version is the cleanest and my favorite atm.
Looking forward to trying Sync when it comes to iOS. Never tried it for Reddit - only used Apollo.
How can I get it on Testflight? I am using Mlem currently and tried Memmy a bit. For now I look at Mlem as my Lemmy-app, because the comments are well formatted compared to Memmy, but Memmy is Open Source and has definetly the the better Icon. Yes, such things are important for me, too.
Voyager TestFlight link: https://testflight.apple.com/join/nWLw1MBM
I joined early on, so it may be full like they often are. If it is, bookmark and keep checking - especially during off hours.
Thx, I got it. (:
Fuck PWA. I want a native, fast app with no JavaScript.
It’s fast and it’s about as native as most apps get nowadays. Kotlin on Android or Swift on iOS still run in virtual machines with GC not unlike Javascript. Nobody writes apps in C++ either. Maybe one day we will do it in Rust when there’s ever a good mobile GUI framework.
Also by fast I do mean fast. Much better than any other PWA or website I’ve ever used and on par with good native apps. There do be some bugs, I’ve run into two and they’re a bit annoying, but I’m sure they’ll be fixed soon enough. The dev is super active and it’s open source so anyone can contribute.
Much of the time you can’t really tell it’s not Apollo and that was the best reddit app hands down.
I do have a recent iPhone though. Maybe an older or lower end phone won’t be as fast. But even so, I would still recommend trying it.
Your argument for "as native as most apps” falls apart pretty quickly though.
I’m not saying it’s a bad app. I’m just saying it’s a badly made app, because JavaScript was a joke 30 years ago, it’s a joke today. (ThePrimeagen)
Most apps aren’t native, so being “as native” as the baseline average or better isn’t even saying much at all. They’re all using V8, and I’m slightly less disgruntled if they use something like React Native or whatever instead of Vue and virtual DOM stuff. This was brief but you get the idea.
Also, Xamarin and Flutter/Skia do exist.
React native, Xamarin, Flutter aren’t REALLY native either. Neither are, like I said, the main languages either mobile platform’s owner wants you to use.
Mobile apps are rarely native for real these days.
Voyager uses React so it uses the Virtual DOM much like Vue (which often tends to be faster) or React Native. I can’t see how using React Native instead of React like you suggested is all that much better. It’s all the same shit.
You want native, there’s Dioxus for Rust or I guess QT for C++. Those will compile into actual binaries rather than some sort of bytecode running in an interpreter. But these take much more time to write complex apps in and in a world where we want all our apps to be free, they’re hard to justify.
It’s interesting you quote ThePrimeagen about Javascript, because it’s literally the main language he uses/used at Netflix and he often says it’s not a bad language. He’s got a workshop on Javascript coming in November.
I hate the language as much as any and have avoided using it professionally, but your arguments are pretty weak. Modern Javascript engines are ridiculously fast, which is why a WELL MADE web app can be much faster than a shoddily made “native” app.
There’s acyually an APK version for android as well of Voyager.
Are you sure it’s legit? From a quick look at the official GitHub repo’s README, I saw no mention of a native Android app (however I did see mention of the iOS app).
EDIT: dug a little deeper and saw mention of the Android app in the latest release notes (beta coming soon to the play store) as well as an empty Android studio project folder in the source. Maybe the actual code is somewhere on a different branch, but even so, I would be hesitant to install random APKs not coming from the developer themself.
Here it is on the google play store: https://lemmy.world/post/2613340
Damn, the Voyager dev works fast! Thanks for the link.
The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.
I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren’t going to pay him and use the free version, which you’re welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)
You’re just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.
I just use thunder, it’s open source.
God forbid you have to pay for stuff.
God forbid you
have tocan pay for stuff if you want.It’s a third party app. One of many. With an optional purchase to support the dev. Honestly…
With an optional purchase to support the dev.
You mean the schuckster trying to make a buck using another free API after the last one booted him out? Guy’s a slimeball.
What a genuinely unhinged take.
You’re not paying for the API, you’re paying for the dev time.
Don’t forget that he added ads into the app for a platform that doesn’t have ads and then is selling the option to remove them.
Exactly. That’s his m.o., find a free content farm and charge people to access it. And yet people eat it up, which is insane.
It’s blowing my mind that people on here are happy to throw $100+ at a mobile app to access a free website that has multiple free and very good apps, especially when the app they’re paying for is inserting ads into the experience to make people pay to remove the ads.
I doubt anyone who says this has donated to their Lemmy instance.
The truth is, humans try to justify their purchases. You didn’t want to pau for Sync, you would have happily used it for free.
You want to feel good for having paid for Sync.
God forbid i can choose the alternative while talk about how expensive the other choice is.
The other choice is free though. You don’t have to pay.
$20 one time for a well developed app that I use multiple hours a day is inexpensive.
I pay almost as much to multiple streaming services PER MONTH for a shitty experience and sometimes not a completely ad-free experience.
Anyway, in all honesty I chose the $1.99/mo because it gives the dev $24/yr into perpetuity. I also donate to instances. I also use Connect and Jerboa and Liftoff. It’s whatever.
God forbid you have to pay for stuff.
But reddit asking to be paid for use of their API was the end of the world for these devs lol
No, reddit demanded ludicrously high fees at barely 30 days notice. It gave nobody any time at all to figure out alternative monetization strategies. Many of the third party apps had expressed their willingness to pay, but that was just absurd
Most of these apps had subscriptions already in place. All they had to do was remove the free access and maybe increase the subscription price a bit to $5/month (I’m not sure what they were charging before).
They also had ads, which they’d no longer gain revenue from. Ads can pull in $3-5 per month per user. That’s a massive loss.
They could still have ads.
Not if you remove free access. That’s a great way to lose your entire user base.
Apart from the ones that pay. You only need to look at any of the sync posts on here to see there are many, many of them.
I’ve been using Connect. I’m testing out Sync the last couple of days and I think I like Connect better.
Fwiw, I’ve been using the free version of Sync since yesterday and still haven’t seen a single ad. But also, it’s like they just aren’t live yet because I do see an occasional empty box with “sponsored content” labeled in the center.
