• Olap@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Pretty much all data heavy organisations use excel VERY heavily. And when nobody understands the model within them any more, they need retiring and are usually replaced with… Excel! This time with even more tabs and columns. To replace these things with computer models risks repeating the same problem the original sheet has: bus factors and complexities are hard, more so even in python/r than excel sadly. Maybe one day something will trump it, but that day is not today

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        8 months ago

        I do this for a living. I’ve spent basically my whole career (15 years full time professional at this stage) basically trying to kill excel. You can’t, or at least I can’t. You can add processes to it, you can programmatically read/write from it, but when it comes down to ditching it: every stakeholder is invested in excel. No other piece of office has the staying power that excel has, it will outlast us all

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          8 months ago

          It’s surely a nightmare for long term usage but is there a software that can beat the functional reactive sort of auto updates when using spreadsheets with a few thousand rows of data? I’d have to actually use my brain to do the same thing as a pivot table in an array programming language.

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            8 months ago

            Any sort of actual database will let you do it. SQL based the obvious answer, but they are all way harder to use than they should be. SQLite never got anything as good as excel sadly, and parquet still lacks a decent windows client. The WYSIWYG of excel really is so intuitive, nothing I know matches it

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            8 months ago

            I suspect slightly more useful than a cockroach. Believe it or not, it’s actually good at what it does. That’s why it’s still here. And also why I’m in a job, as there are plenty of things it shouldn’t be doing too

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        8 months ago

        Yes. Your boss needs to be able to double click on an email attachment otherwise it’s like you never even did anything.

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        8 months ago

        Supply chain management software exists. Do they meet f1 demands? Doubtful, but this is why you partner with a software company. They add more, you pay less, and give them some good sponsorship

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          8 months ago

          Do they meet f1 demands?

          If the alternative is a spreadsheet that gets updated manually, literally anything would be an improvement.

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      8 months ago

      But in a language like Python there are established patterns for dealing with complexity unlike Excel lol

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        8 months ago

        How do the handle version control? I’m yet to actually meet it in the wild

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          8 months ago

          Version control for any kind of code can be done with git if that’s what you are asking. There are other systems available too but that’s the standard for most things now.