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    it’s a car. it’s not an app. stop trying to apply subscriptions to everything. it’s wasteful to have unnecessary bloat for features people don’t want.

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      We, as an entire society, will have to stop paying for any of this shit to make that happen.

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        Yeah there would have to be a total psychological shift for society to fight the marketing

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        Maybe we, as a society of workers, simply eat the rich? Or at least feed them to hounds

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    As productivity increases, artificial scarcity becomes necessary to maintain pre-existing levels of inequality.

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    Letting rich people have access to the internet was a mistake. This shit is begging for regulation.

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    From the article…

    Over the years, Tesla has periodically offered cheaper vehicles with shorter ranges, and rather than building a new vehicle with a smaller battery pack, the automaker has decided to instead use the same battery packs capable of more range and software-locked the range.

    I can see business wise why they would want to do that, but P.R. and public perception wise, that’s one step forward, two steps back.

    Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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      It’s tricky. It’s not like BMW locking heated seats, a trivial feature, to nickel and dime the owner out of $300.

      Reducing the battery capacity severely alters the value of the car possibly dropping it into the range of more budget conscious buyers.

      There are benefits too. Less wear on the battery by not using its whole range, faster charging to “100%,” and more potential value when it comes time to sell should the buyer want to unlock the extra range.

      Leave it to Tesla though to bungle the PR and completely lose the narrative.

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        If I own the car then either those are all my cells or someone else has abandoned their property in my car.

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          You don’t have to buy the car. People aren’t getting conned here… They would buy a more expensive version of the car with a higher range if they thought that would suit their needs.

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            You don’t have to buy the car.

            If it’s a profitable decision then it has the potential to become the de facto standard, so simply not buying it isn’t enough.

            The manufacturer using software to lock use of hardware in people’s own cars is an attack on ownership rights.

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              When it comes to things that are trivial to include but locked behind exorbitant paywalls (i.e. heated seats), I agree.

              However, range/battery capacity is the primary price differentiator for EVs and also the primary cost for manufacturing. Finding a way to offer options that suit the needs of different people at varying prices just allows more people to enter the market.

              to become the de facto standard

              I feel like it might be nice to have a sliding scale of ranges available for people who have a sliding scale of needs. If I need a second car strictly for my 20 mile commute, it might be nice to have an option to pay less for 100 miles of range over 200. And I assume if a market is established for low-range EVs, manufacturers will compete with each other on how to deliver that for the best price. Perhaps if the market is large enough, Tesla will find it better to actually remove the extra batteries and put them in other cars.

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                If manufacturers made parts available for longer (or perhaps at all in some cases?) then 2nd-hand cars already make for a cheaper option.

                I believe artificially limiting hardware is an unacceptable for a health society because proprietary software gives the developer power over their users. Even people with good intentions will be tempted to use that power at the user’s expense. A software update could suddenly make that 20 mil commute no longer possible unless you agree to pay more for some subscription, or accept a new terms of service where you agree to forced arbitration if you don’t want to lose access to even using your vehicle.

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                  proprietary software gives the developer power over their users.

                  Agree here, but that’s a much larger issue than just this particular pricing structure.

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        You are 100% right it improves the lifespan, and when selling it, a battery in better condition makes the car worth more.
        I think somehow some people misunderstand your post? Or they don’t get how it can be an advantage to have a bigger battery than you pay for?

        Mind you I don’t condone this business model, which to me feels like cheating.

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          It’s funny how frequently this business model is used in the digital space, but when it comes to physical hardware, people freak.

          Like look at movies. Does anybody really think it costs substantially more to deliver the 4K version of a product over the HD version? Everything, Everywhere, All At Once is $12 on Blu-ray on Amazon. It’s $20 on 4k UHD.

          The movie was mastered at 4k or higher, so why not just give you the UHD version with the Blu-ray version? The physical disc can’t cost more than a few cents to manufacture.

          It’s because some people have decided they don’t need 4k and are happy to take a shittier version of the product for a lower price.

          Don’t get me started how much people hate when content is included on the game disc locked behind a paywall yet somehow have less of an issue when there’s day 1 downloadable content also locked behind a paywall.

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            Perhaps typical people can more easily understand how a physical device might work. People probably understand gears and electricity more so than “software” (never even heard of source code or binaries).

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    “Software-locked” is a weird way to say you need to install Linux to get it all working properly.

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    Well, at least there’s no rare earth metals in Tesla batteries that are sourced from countries with exploitative labor practices. Might as well waste a few to create an artificially shittier product.

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    Good news is that now people have decent options for non-Tesla EVs.

    Now we just need to make sure those cars have access to widespread and reliable charging. NACS is a good start, but NACS cars will only have access to less than a third of Telsa’s network.