• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “A level 4 autonomous vehicle will be for sale in the US to ordinary customers (80 percent)”

    When this becomes universally adopted, it’s going to have a bigger impact than anyone thinks.

    Cities now derive revenue from traffic fines, parking fines, parking fees, and so on.

    Level 4 autonomous vehicles are going to obviate ALL of that which means cities are going to lose more and more revenue as they become adopted.

    And nobody is thinking about how to replace that revenue.

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      6 months ago

      I live in Southern California in a parking impacted area. The amount of money they make off of “street sweeping” is insane. With this, you’d just tell your car to drive around until the street sweeping is done.

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        6 months ago

        Yup, back when I had to go to an office I was paying $21 a day to park. 5 days a week.

        With an autonomous car I could have it drop me off, drive back home, then pick me up based on my cell phone location on demand.

        Yeah, I’d double my gas usage during the week, but I guarantee it would be less than $105.

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          6 months ago

          It wouldn’t have to go all the way home, just some safe free spot.

          If you have family/friends it could be helping them out all day.

          Or a robotaxi might suit better.

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          6 months ago

          I’d double my gas usage during the week

          More likely power bill I’d think - I haven’t heard of anyone working on an autonomous gas powered car or even hybrid. Also a few states won’t even be allowing sales of gas cars in 11 years

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            6 months ago

            Double the wear n tear on the car, double the wear n tear on roads, double the traffic. yipeeeeee

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              6 months ago

              True.

              I just thought of a potential partial solution:
              There could be companies that rent spaces in parking lots (with charging) specifically for automated cars, located just outside cities and commercial/industrial areas. Might even be useful to people in apartments or otherwise without a place to charge at home.

              These would be closer to where the car needs to go later than all the way back home, and ideally on lower traffic routes.

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              6 months ago

              Yes, but you’d still have twice as many cars on the road at any point in time, grinding everything to a standstill.

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                6 months ago

                Autonomous cars really will be a fucking nightmare for traffic and I don’t think people understand this. Traffic is one of the biggest reducers of car trips, it’s why induced demand is a thing. People avoid trips if they don’t want to deal with the traffic and people pay for expensive parking to avoid driving around looking for a cheap spot.

                Autonomous cars would enable so many trips that would otherwise be avoided. Don’t want to look for parking? Your car will do it. Don’t want to sit in traffic for 30 mins to get to the grocery store? You can watch youtube while your car drives you. Don’t want to take your kid to a friends house? The car will drive them.

                EVs are not going to solve climate change and autonomous cars are not going to fix traffic. These problems are only solved by reducing car dependency and the faster people suck it up and accept that the faster we actually start working on solutions instead of tech bro nonsense that only solves the problem of how to concentrate even more wealth in the 0.1%.