In China, you can’t exist without a smartphone, because for all existential things you have to do (paying bills, buying tickets etc.) , you are forced to use the almighty wechat app. Smartphones are a tool to manipulate and to spy on the population. It is a tool utilized by the ruling class, to control the masses. I hate the future and I hate “progress”.

  • Magister@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Something happened in QC a few weeks ago like this. A IIRC 60yo person who donated blood all his life, went to a donor center, there was a lot of empty seats so he wanted to do like he has done for 40 years, take a seat and give blood, but no, nurses told him he has to register and make an appointment on the application. So he left.

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    I was in China two months ago. While WeChat and AliPay are ubiquitous, it’s not true that China is cashless. You can still use cash pretty much everywhere, but expect vendors to have to rummage for a bag of cash behind the counter then panic as they don’t remember how to count money.

    But honestly, it’s not that different from Europe and North America. When I’m in, say, Canada or France, I’m using a Visa credit card through Google Wallet for absolutely everything. Not sure I trust Google and Visa any more than WeChat.

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    Elon is working on replicating it now with “X”. He’s already said he wanted something like that for the US

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    This will happen and marginalized groups like illegal immigrants, the homeless, and the disabled will be effectively excluded. Poor people are going to have their finances controlled even more. This will cause deaths.

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    Cash and other physical payment methods (Gold, silver, Goldbacks) are important. Same goes with email instead of phone numbers since email can essentially be free while phone numbers cost money to be registered and email is easily accessible on a computer and does not require a phone.

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    It’s unironically good that there is further centralisation, integration and efficiency in payments, reservations, bills. What China is doing is It’s progress and future. You just can’t imagine that anything big and centralised can even in principle work for the people. WELL IT CAN AND IT SHOULD. No need to be a Luddite or dogmatic libertarian about it. What you are really worried that government or big corporation would control it. And if you are one of those that can’t process the idea that government could ever be trusted in anything, because of bad experience (and probably partly because of propaganda) then it gets to be understandable position, but it isn’t in reality like that and doesn’t have to be like that.

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      People who care about privacy and mental self-determination don’t own smartphones.

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        But pc is acceptable??? Hahaha so self righteous getting second hand cringe here

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    False.

    Smartphones are not a tool to manipulate and spy on tge population. Nor are they a tool utilized by the ruling class to control the masses.

    Dont assume that what happens in China will happen elsewhere.

    You might appreciate the work done by purism to give us more control over our devices.