The UK is currently experiencing some prolonged windy weather and my all-renewable energy provider offers dynamic pricing. That means cheap energy and even negative-cost energy. This is where my HA instance shines and saves me a fortune on my power bill. Thanks again to the HA devs for this incredible project.
For the curious, I’m using bottlecapdave’s excellent Home Assistant Octopus Energy integration via HACS.
I keep thinking about doing something similar as I have an EV, solar, and batteries and Home Assistant to pull it all together but I just can’t seem to make the maths work on sites like Octoprice. No matter how much I tweak things it always comes out more expensive than Intelligent Go.
I do at least have an automation setup to make the most of the 2 hours of free energy tomorrow. Better than nothing!
I’m surprised, to be honest, since I worked out a while ago that if I had an EV - even something like a Zoë doing 20 miles a day - I’d be saving a lot of money, but if you’ve done the maths then fair enough. Keep in mind, though, that since you’re alreay with Octupus you could just switch to Agile for a month and switch back if it doesn’t work out.
I take it being in a flat means you’re renting? How did you go about monitoring all of your power?
Whole-home metering is done with a Home Mini, a device that Octupus gives away to any customer that asks nicely and provides real-time data. For devices with plugs is mostly LocalBytes smartplugs or similar. For the heaters, well, hypothetically, that would require installing something like a Shelly PM Mini Gen 3 inside the wall box behind the heater without asking the landlord’s permission.
I’ll be taking advantage of the negative cost energy to charge my car. How have you got HA set up to take advantage? Is it automating certain appliances running when the rate is lowest?
Yup! No EV here, sadly, and I live in a flat but I’ve got storage heaters and a big hot water tank. I’ve got an incredibly janky template sensor that works out how many hours of heating I need for each room based on the weather forecast and an automation that activates the heaters for that many hours a day at the cheapest times. It can also turn the heating on when the price drops below a certain threshold, currently 0p.
Are there any creative energy sinks you could run when the price goes negative? I can only think of mining crypto or transcoding video or stuff like that.
Flip side of heating could be to lower the temperature of freezers. If the energy is free anyways.
Dingdingding! Correct. For the chepest two hours a day (or any time cost is negative) Home Assistant gives Portainer a kick and I sail the high seas. Whenever costs are negative I saturate my servers with BOINC CPU-heavy workloads like ClimatePrediction, Rosetta@Home, LHC@Home and World Community Grid.
One of those giaaant resistors and a significantly higher current service from the utility!!
Flip side of heating could be to lower the temperature of freezers. If the energy is free anyways.
That sounds good! I can see how that would save a lot of money on the bills. I especially like that you’ve got a “janky” template sensor haha. HA is so good for it’s openness and letting you bodge things together which have no right to work but do so all the same!
What’s your power bill look like monthly with this?
I’m currently paying £50/mo and that’s with credit building up on my account. My initial investment in HA has paid for itself many time over.
Good one! Dark Green should be cheaper than light green though.
