‘You’re Telling Me in 2023, You Still Have a ’Droid?’ Why Teens Hate Android Phones / A recent survey of teens found that 87% have iPhones, and don’t plan to switch::undefined

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    1 year ago

    Disposable society at the max. They done got the new generation to accept planned obsolescence…

    Fuck that, Right To Repair!

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      And being able to easily side-load apps. Also being able to just use a USB C cable like every other device. ( will not apply to future EU, but will probably remain relevant other places ).

      I just really fucking hate apple and thier walled garden bullshit.

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      Name one Android phone that gets 5 years of the latest OS, without rooting or installing a third party OS, followed by another couple years of security updates.

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        The Fairphone. Fairphone 2 was updated from Android 5 through 10 (5 years on the latest version) Fairphone 3 started at 9 and is currently on Android 13, that’s five years, and hasn’t had it’s last update yet.

        That’s two Android phones with at least 5 years on the latest OS, and Fairphone 2 got patch updates until this year, giving it support and updates from 2014 until 2023

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          FairPhone 3 user here. It’s true, just updated to Android 13, came with 9.

          Additionally: Micro-SD, Dual-SIM, replaceable battery, can be repaired by myself at home, cheap/fair priced replacement parts and ethically sourced ressources.

          It. is. possible.

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            Granted, Fairphone had to entirely do the BSP and entire update themselves because the SoC vendor doesn’t support A13.

            The real issue here isn’t with the OEMs it’s the chip set vendors not supporting Android as long.

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        Why you want the latest OS anyways? Just to lock you out of features your device is otherwise capable of?

        That’s the way things are going. Try keeping up would ya?

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          Sure, if you don’t care about being able to install new apps. Apple has many faults, but planned obsolescence is not one of them, especially since they OFFICIALLY support their devices 2-3 times as long as every single Android device out there.

          Also, every iOS update has added functionality. I feel like I get a new phone every fall.

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            There’s no point in arguing with folks like that. They’re way more interested in platform wars than an honest argument. When they stick to the tired “planned obsolescence” lines from 10 years ago and try to argue that having a 2 year old phone that no longer gets security updates is a good thing, you know they jumped the shark years ago and are just posting in bad faith at this point.

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                Believe me I get it :) It’s hard for me to resist too but sometimes there’s no winning. And winning isn’t even what we’re after usually. Just an honest back and forth about the pros and cons about the tech we all enjoy. It’s too bad that kind of discourse is so hard to come by these days :/

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              Oh no, no platform wars from me. Whatever operating system works for you, awesome!

              But these companies that have gone so far as to glue or epoxy their batteries in, well that’s totally planned obsolescence.

              Guess it’s only a coincidence which operating systems work with which devices… 🤔

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            Our shop literally wasn’t allowed to purchase new iPhone batteries, because of US Customs. My boss had us using scrap batteries from spare parts devices, while still selling them off to customers as though they were ‘new’ batteries.

            Any wonder why I quit in 2017? Wanna try again?

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              Again, name ONE other smartphone that is supported by the manufacturer for 5+ years.

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                As far as smart phones, what, are you trying to defend planned obsolescence?

                Seriously, if the old tech could last 8+ years, why should the new tech be so shitty to only last a few years or so?

                Shouldn’t we be upgrading to devices meant to last 20+ years?

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                  My definition of “planned obsolescence” includes devices that either come with outdated software from the factory, or devices that stop getting OS updates after a year or two. To accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in this context is absurd to me when all of their competitors are objectively worse at supporting their phones.

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                    Well my definition of planned obsolescence is when they epoxy the battery into the phone. It’s a well known fact that lithium batteries will wear out in a few years or so…

                    The EU recently voted to make it law that phone batteries and such need to be replaceable in the future.

                    Like, why would you want a battery you can’t pull out or replace? It’s like the first thing to wear out, and the most dangerous part.

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                My roommate’s dumb flip phone lasted 8 years.

                Thinking about framing the parts actually.

                Only reason it quit working was because they shut down 3G service here.