I expect once it’s at a “now it’s done” stage that might come up more.

Right now this is little more than a nice POC. I think the refined version will be quite a bit better…. And easier to make all going well.

Thanks. The loose assumptions are dead on.

Funnily enough after implementing the “math mode” I realised I’d made a gaming half board.

If you use szxc instead of wasd in math mode you have all your numbers still. The left side has a USB mode so you can avoid lag that come from BT (though that hasn’t been an issue for me). SZXC could easily be remapped to WASD on the firmware.

It got me to thinking whether I should tinker with a games mode…. But I don’t play enough PC games to have the right perspective for that. I suspect it’d be a very poor fit and more the kind of thing best left to people that like to make their own stuff to update the keymap who do a bit more of that than me.

Ah, sadly I don’t have this with ZMK, going wireless very much limits what can be done. I’d love to add a small trackball for example (PIM447 maybe) but the energy budget is a big factor.

Ah, yes, I did suspect this was muscle memory at work.

The stagger is very similar to that of a Sofle though, and, inline with goals it should hopefully be usable by other newcomers.

Thanks.

I took some hand measurements and this is what it came out with:

I didn’t add the splay, I started to add it, but decided that in practical terms it likely doesn’t make much difference but it made things quite unwieldy looking.

In practice I’ve found the pinky column needs to drop by about 3-4mm which is a change I have in the newest iteration.

Nice, I’m glad it resonates with you.

In a month or so I expect having a properly refined release.

No worries, you’re very welcome.

If you’d like I can share the V1.01 files to you too. The improvements are also electrical as well as mechanical (eg some caps to smooth out the rollers). Otherwise I anticipate publishing in about 4ish weeks time.

I’d love to see that.

I have a design I’m tinkering with as an idea that has two 5 way sticks. The actuation force is too high IMO, but I could not find a suitable digital switch.

Are you interfacing to the switch sticks using analog or do you have some nice low power digital solution?

It’s beautiful!

I really like this, nicely done 😊

That looks super clean.

How have you found the durability of the resin?

I’m hopefully sending some stuff off for manufacturing soon and I’ve been toying with a resin version as it greatly simplifies things for me, but I’m unsure it will be very resilient.

Thanks.

The time and cost exceeds any practical advantage, so, yeah, a little crazy is about right I guess.

Thanks.

I took hand measurements using the following:

https://pashutk.com/ergopad/

As it turns out the Corne is very close to my best layout.

I like the Corne, except it has no backlight, arrows are not very convenient (hence scrollers). I also move between Mac and windows, the extra modifiers on the Sofle make that easier.

In the end I’ve basically got a Sofle/Corne hybrid with scrollers and a backlight.

Glad to be of service. Check out the “lstart” and “lend” macros as a starting point for your single key to select a whole word thing.

I must admit I thought what I was doing here was pretty niche as I couldn’t find anything similar. Even the Bluetooth + Backlight seems a rarity. To be fair routing a 2 layer PCB with the added complexity was a PITA, soldering the resistors was super fiddly (either by hand or reflow).

The fact that it scratches an itch for you is pleasing, it means the added effort of open sourcing may be worth it as a few other people will get some value.

If the GUI key is tapped twice it switches to the windows base layer, double tap again and it goes to the Mac OS (default) layer. This is done using a “tap dance”, look for “td” in the map to find it.

If you look at the conditional layers you’ll see how I accomplished the stacking of key bindings.

Since the board is naked I’ve not really used it, but I was playing with the scrollers and doing text navigation, it was very very nice.

I think you can share layouts from FK Caps:

https://fkcaps.com/custom/HUA582

The above is my current WIP. Hopefully it works, I’d like to share it as a basis for people to customise the Rolio if they want.

Nice, I highly recommend the fk caps guys, really happy with them.

I have an updated set of caps that I’ll order soon, I’m currently tinkering with the backlight glyphs. Still not quite satisfied.

I like your caps idea, I toyed with dye sublimation but then decided against that (clear stickers would have been way easier). Then I saw a link to FK caps somewhere and gave it a go.

My encoders are mostly mapped to arrow keys. But, here’s the current map (it’s derived from my Corne’s map):

https://pastebin.com/9XRqkKYH

This is awesome.

That shot of the insides really sells it, looks like you really had some fun making it 😊

Thanks.

I used Shapr3D, it’s a really nice cross platform package but I mostly use it on iPad, it lets me create things without needing to be at a desk.

The surface texture comes from the build plate (Bambu textured PEI build plate), the hiding scratches is exactly why I used it.

That would certainly work, I like that idea.

I won’t personally re-print this case myself as this Corne is just to see if I like the form factor (I do mostly).

But I will give this technique a go for the next enclosure. Even if it’s more work than a smaller magnet I just want to give it a go now 😊

Cool idea!

Thanks.

I’d love to see the end result, no doubt others will find an MX more useful too, I’ve noticed the choc keys aren’t as popular.