This is cool. I guess I can see how it would come across as an Onion article, but Doctors historically don’t actually take women’s pain in general seriously, let alone pain that is specific to women themselves. Awesome news.

Took me forever, this one is sly

You know I think the plan may actually be to make the economic situation here so bad they can just start exploiting US Citizens the way they do immigrants - they clearly don’t actually have a problem with immigration that provides cheap labor.

na nana nana na na nana na na na

ahh heard

There are several individuals though. Fitgirl and Empress come to mind.

40 MILLION FUCKING DEUTSCHEMARK BOB

And all the roads we have to walk are winding

Blasting this in the conclave

I was thinking about that but like, growing pains come from actual growing… I doubt I’m getting taller than my current 6+ ft on estrogen.

Leveling up in Oblivion is far more complicated than it needs to be. The remaster streamlined it perfectly.

Truly, every line in the clip is delivered with the bravado and conviction of an experienced thespian.

“Gentlemen, this is democrrracy manifest!”

This is the bloke that got me on the penis befoaaa.

“Ooh, that’s a nice headlock sir! Ahhh, yes, I see that you know your judo well.”

“And you sir! Are you waiting to recieve my limp penis?”

This interview was three years ago. I sincerely hope he is in good health and has many more succulent meals in his future.

HANDS OFF MY PENIS

Drew Barrymore had a fucked-up childhood, even by child star standards. Most of the other adults in her life would have been handing her shots at a nightclub.

As far as I’m concerned, Vincent here is giving her the closest equivalent to a normal childhood experience he can give. Even then, I’m pretty sure this was still a photoshoot…

Maybe some people learn things by asking questions in the right spaces to be corrected intellectually. I’m completely fine with being wrong, that’s why I asked a controversial question here. I don’t need you to provide studies to rethink my opinion, I just figured people in this thread might have some available. Apparently the only thing you have on hand at the moment is snark.

Also you’ll only help educate people if you get paid? What??? This would have been such a good moment to point me toward literally any resources that could help in my research. You didn’t even have to link a study, you could just link a database. You and I both know there are studies funded by special interest groups that are biased against trans people. I never claimed to have a credible opinion, which is why I invited discourse.

Anyway, thanks for your statement. I guess I’ll have to look into this more myself. Just keep in mind that most people, when the burden of research is placed upon them by someone who clearly has knowledge of the subject, will simply say “fuck that” and keep being ignorant.

EDIT: If you check this thread again, I’d like to apologize for my incredulity at your statement. I didn’t realize the full ignorance on display in my original comment at the time, and my response was fueled by that. I acted as though you were being overly snarky, which I no longer believe was the case. I acted as though research was a burden. It’s not, but my point was that I was seeking information socially and assumed someone might have studies on hand, which is what I was looking for, and your response didn’t offer. You did, however, give me the correct information - it was my mistake to act as though it was unfounded due to your unwillingness to provide sources. So, in contradiction to what I said earlier, I did need studies to rethink my opinion. That was completely my mistake, and I should have thought more about what I wanted from this discussion before posting or responding in the first place. You are correct, it is my responsibility to educate myself. I should have used your statement as a jumping off point for my own research, but I was caught up in the one detail of my original post wherein I asked for studies, and because of that I saw your comment as less informational and more snarky. I apologize for misinterpreting your intentions.

I do still believe the uneducated need a helping hand from time to time. My purpose was to reach out for that, not to start a fight, and I apologize for being inflammatory as well.

All that said, I don’t necessarily think it was a bad idea to reveal my ignorance, as you helped inform me, and led to an interaction where someone did link studies that proved me wrong. I understand how I came across, and why you would be unwilling to put in that effort for someone displaying that level of ignorance. It was unfair to insinuate that I’d be having this discussion under my terms - I apologize for that. I’m grateful that flamingembers did step in to meet me on my ground, and strongly believe that in some cases (mine included) using someone’s established mindset and what they’re willing to accept to spark discussion that leads to change is what helps them grow. However, I recognize your attempt to do this in your response and apologize for my unwillingness to connect at the time because I didn’t see how it fit into my original question (which was supposed to be asking for studies, but really just came across as a challenge)

I’m leaving my original response unedited. I hope anyone else reading this can use my original response as an example of how not to clarify your thoughts.

Why don’t we just make a trans league so we can just stop talking about this with anyone ever again?

Also, does a person who has gone through male puberty before transition not have at least some advantage in certain areas due to bone structure alone? I understand that trans girls who pre-empt puberty are likely physically equivalent to their cisgendered peers, but I have my reservations about integrating people who transition later in life. If I’m wrong, I would love to see any studies anyone may want to share.

EDIT: I am wrong, thank you flamingembers and southsamurai. I would also like to apologize for the wording of this post. My original thought was that trans women who previously went through male puberty may have an advantage in some areas due to a potential wider skeletal structure in their upper bodies as compared to cisgendered peers. I did let my (unfounded on research!) opinion creep into that too much, and I do understand why that would leave a bad taste in the mouth of anyone who knows better.

The evidence clearly contradicts the thinking that my original post was based upon - there was no area studied where trans women had an advantage. On top of that, it also appears trans women can’t even intake as much oxygen as cis women - which would already offset any size differences even if trans women were bigger and stronger on average (they aren’t).

This isn’t news to anyone educated, but I wanted to edit this comment so that any transphobes upvoting my post due to having the same flavor of ignorance that they do understand that I do not agree with them, and I am not trying to propagate their views.

Yeah, cancelling this seems like a good call.

Must need it to fit all that bloatware lmao

Comet! I’d hunt for those in San Ferro for races all day…