So Andy Yen is Hitler now?

Well yes, but Proton is still located in Switzerland and has a decent governance structure in play with a non profit. He cannot just kill the company by switching it’s core USP

Because his power is limited? He cannot just change policy on a dime

Unless the governance structure agrees to it they can’t and even the we vaj sue them for abusing a Swiss non profit

Yeah a lot of people fan over celeberties politicians or CEO’s, but at the same time a lot of people also hate those same people for various reasons. And people believe in bad against bad and not even the law anymore and don’t believe in second changes or forgiveness.

We call that, the internet.

They legally can’t though that’s the thing people are missing

A general increase in old person pension?

Every coin has two sides

I can say the same thing about you mentioning god. Religious conservatives have been an issue in the US (and outside the US as well) for years. But I am not going to call you out publicly for doing that either.

Now fascists are different, but agreeing with a more economic focussed standpoint doesn’t mean you have sympathy for fascists. I am progessive-center right aligned in politics, what are you gonna call me a Nazi? The US politics don’t lend for people to have specific directions with their votes.

Proton the company and the foundation are still on the consumer side of the while discussion and besides a deleted Tweet that aint gonna happen.

I am sorry, but I find it so absurd that people can literally kick somebody or a company down because of something relatively small. Most companies can be found dirt on, what are you going to do? I am just saying that there is more to the story than just calling somebody a MAGA supporter which these days is basically calling somebody a Nazi

Proton’s official account also deleted the comment and Yen created a new account for himself so Proton did what eas really required by any rule book or whatever you wanna call it in situations like this.

So no I wouldn’t say Proton agreed on it.

Call him out for his tweet or Protons post fair, but that doesnt him a MAGA supporter. It just makes him a supporter of a bullshit statement. And it definitely doesn’t make Proton MAGA. Nuances are needed to make it so people can have their own opinions formed and we don’t get a black or white/good or bad view on the world.

It says a lot to you, but not to a lot of people. Stop barading the company for your own opinion

Well yeah he did support a Trump statement and went out of his way to do it. Later stupidly doubled down on it by using the official response.

But, and this might be because I am not American and live in a country where politics aren’t so black and white, but I fail to see how that means you are a MAGA nut/Trump supporter or what not. Especially not because he hasn’t taken action (will be hard to do anyway since he is not American).

And there is a strong governance structure with Andy Yen only having 33% power on final says since he is 1 of 3 people in the Proton Foundation which is the shareholder of the Proton company.

I don’t brush anything under the rug. I actively shared the Tweet that started this hole BS.

Well fair, maybe I should have shown their response. They doubled down on it, but they also deleted it. Both of the American parties are a shitshow, but then again America is just corrupt anyway. Trump didn’t even have 50% of the votes.

Saying “Proton = Maga” or whatever doesn’t shed light on the issue either. In the end I believe more in actions than words (and i have faith in a decent governance structure) and I believe that people should take their own conclusion on the matter based on the Tweet and well yeah I should start linking the Reddit post again.

The moment Proton itself starts to fuck things over I am out of there as well, but currently I prepaid just before this came to light, but I use my own domain so mhe

You mentioned almost nothing? Tuta can even more easily change their privacy policy. Not saying Tuta isn’t the right choice, but it’s worse than a lot of people make you think it is

Proton is not responsible for everything Andy Yen does, Andy Yen has to take responsibility for everything Proton does.

But his power is limited anyway since there is a governance structure by using the non profit that is shareholder of Proton. This is not America.

Tuta is located in Germany which has more power to look into your data than the Swiss government, but it’s mhe.

Also what separation of power do you mean? Proton is also owned by a non profit and Tuta is just a Gmbh which is owned by two individuals it seems. Changing something regarding the non profit or the structure is pretty hard to do

Tuta is however more open with that you can find their annual report or at least part of it if you want.

Many of those are caused by people having insecure accounts without enabling 2FA etc. And there is a lot of money involved, even the top TF2 accounts are worth tens of thousands of euro’s

Proton didn’t decide anything, Andy Yen posted ONE tweet and then doubled down on it with the Proton Reddit account which was deleted.

I know the US is really into this “us vs them” or Republicans against the Democrats or whatever you want to and that is fair, that’s how US policies sadly work which is also one of the reasons why the country is basically corrupt. For most people agreeing with one statement a politician made doesn’t mean anything. I can agree with some things Geert Wilders said, but that doesn’t mean Ill vote for him.

There are other articles about the whole situation, but I believe that the Tweet says more than the bullshit some people have been shouting on every post regarding Proton. Share the Tweet yes, but don’t share the bullshit.

Yeah no problem, everybody is allowed to make their own decisions, but I feel like everybody should at least see the actual Tweet.

Edit: apparantly people don’t want the truth to be shared? Share the dang Tweet people.

Agreeing with a statement from a politician doesn’t mean you support that politician, that’s how compromises can even start.

But Any Yen isn’t in politics, let alone US politics, he is just an idiot.

This articles goes a bit more into it, but it is also an opinion. Don’t use Proton if you don’t want to idc: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e