Hey … I have been looking at both. Im a Business Analyst rather than DevOps so I went for Yunohost.org as it got me something running more quickly rather than Coop.Cloud but I can see the different use cases.

Can I ask why you described your install as Crufty? What issues have you run into hauving Yunohost for a while?

It feels to me (Without direct experience running Coop Cloud bit more looking and chatting ) that its more aimed at provisioning multiple instances for multiple customers across multiple VMs rather than Yunohost which seems like more of a - This is one instance on one server/VM

There is a part of me that likes the user admin features/ GUI of Yunohost and wonders whether people managing multiple organisations across many VMs would want to wrap Yunohost inside Coop. Cloud - but im all new to this.

Many Open source alternatives exist already such as vTiger and CiviCRM.

For my two cents worth I think they could do well by integrating with Nextcloud and Drupal or WordPress (Or whatever comes out of its current shambles).

From the article it seems like they are creating a extendible object model which in some ways is similar to what SharePoint has with its lists. Nextcloud has an add-on (Tables) that is a proto version of this. CiviCRM has worked to integrate website data collection from Drupal / Wordpress well.

Thinking from front of house (website) to back of house (CRM) then Nextcloud the missing link is to Nextcloud ( So documents and images can flow forward into the website Media Library ) and the extensible object model for data.amd being able to link unstructured data (documents etc. to structured data. (Not an expert on CiviCRM so not sure how flexible it is. )

But good on them for having a go. Let many flowers bloom. Even if it doesn’t take off some of their ideas might get adopted by someone else in some other way.

Wow this is cool. Do you use OpenWrt at all? It would be amazing to integrate with its DYNDns package.

Yup. I got yunohost.org running on a free instance on Oracle cloud (using a PaYG account) but costing nothing. - Ive then spun up an Email, Frendica server (limited to users on my domain) and Takahe to try out ActivityPub.

I think that a killer app for activityPub would be if MSFT or Google offered it as a service on Workplace / Office365 . (I mean Id rather not use either of them myself)

If you know nothing about hosting your own instance why not start learning? Try something slike running Yunohost.org on a VPS and start running Friendica, GotoSocia, Takahe or even ActivityPub on a Wordpress website to get some experience.

If you aren’t technical then you shouldn’t try to make technical arguments but get your academic team to talk to your IT team about the reasons why you want an ActivityPub solution and let them figure out the technical questions.

So an update on this. I have started looking at yunohost.org because it standardises the installation and maintenance of a variety of common apps - HomeAssistant, LDAP, email server, mqtt, Nextcloud. i recently saw a post on Reddit about succession planning which reminded me about my own questions.

Id much prefer people just posted on Lemmy.

Im just new with yunohost.org but it does seem to make installing applications very simple. Users, email, reverse proxy.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Ah yes the infamous secure location - In the (empty) plant pot, under the car, in the wheelie bin (on bin day) - These are some of my favourite ‘secure locations’ our local delivery drivers have identified. - I prefer the post box on my walk.

Yeah i think so. Ive done that plenty of times. I find it weird that Royal Mail will offer to collect my single second class letter by default. How does that work without a letterbox? Do i have to stay in all day waiting for the Postman?

This is wqhat Royal Mail does.annd Indeed it’s slightly cheaper to login to their website, purchase and print postage and then drop it at the Post Office than it is to buy thhe Stamps at the Post Office.