I know it’s fun to dunk on the asshole ruining our country, but I don’t think we should be in the habit of sharing shopped images. That’s what the extremists do, and then claim it’s real. We have to be better than them. Plus, they’ll use us distributing the memes as evidence of “Dems spreading fake news!”…
i agree, We dont relly need photoshops and lies, when theres plenty of truth out there thats humiliating enough as is.
but as you can see, theres a lot of people who don’t give a shit about right, as long as they can dunk on the person they dont like. Same issue as those fake TPUSA tweets people were obsessed with making a few years ago. Does nothing but muddy waters and provide cover for right wing actions.
They do it themselves and already accuse everyone else of sharing fake stuff. Has the moral high ground really worked so far?
All I see is that lies and appeal to emotion is what has given them real power. So when it comes to ridiculing the trump administration, I say fuck it, the alternative hasn’t worked so far. It’s only gotten worse
It has nothing to do with morality. People largely distrust politicians and politics in general. “Never Trump” Republicans and middle-of-the-road Independents. People we actually do need to vote. They’ll say “both sides are the same” when they’re obviously not. When we prove them right by stooping to the extremists’ level, they disengage, along with millions of other people. They won’t trust us, and why should they?
And I ask again, has that call to voting and high-roading strategy worked so far? All I see is a fascist US that will now inevitably end in bloodshed. People already disengaged without the opposition “stooping down to extremist levels”. I’d even argue that that sort of weak opposition is exactly why people disengaged in the first place
Not to mention, the US is beyond that stage now. Fascism has arrived there, and it has entrenched itself. It will not leave peacefully, just like it didn’t historically. No matter what, it’s time for new strategies
Literally no one is saying to use the “high road”, I’m saying that, as a strategy, using disinformation will not accomplish our goals. And that’s not even taking into account the results. You think tricking people into following us based on doctored images will get loyal, dependable supporters??
Look, you have your opinion and I have mine. Plenty of progressive think tanks, organizations, podcasts, etc will do focus groups and surveys closer to the midterms elections. At which point we’ll have a better understanding of voters and messaging… In the meantime, I can only speak for myself: I, personally am far less likely to support any candidate that uses disinformation and blatant lies. Am I alone? Maybe. But I’m willing to bet there’s millions more that feel the same way…
Because… it’s not the truth? At least in regards to that edited image. Republicans may not care what’s real, but I do. Yeah, Trump’s a piece of shit. But the one thing he can never do is to turn me into one. Even if we disagree, please take care of your family, friends, and community.
I know it’s fun to dunk on the asshole ruining our country, but I don’t think we should be in the habit of sharing shopped images. That’s what the extremists do, and then claim it’s real. We have to be better than them. Plus, they’ll use us distributing the memes as evidence of “Dems spreading fake news!”…
They already call anything that doesn’t fit their narrative fake news. No amount of evidence will sway them…
i agree, We dont relly need photoshops and lies, when theres plenty of truth out there thats humiliating enough as is.
but as you can see, theres a lot of people who don’t give a shit about right, as long as they can dunk on the person they dont like. Same issue as those fake TPUSA tweets people were obsessed with making a few years ago. Does nothing but muddy waters and provide cover for right wing actions.
We have to be better than them by not being inhumane fucks sending 4 year old cancer kids to gulags, not by not fighting dirty.
Use every tool available to weaken Trumps image. Make the world think he’s an infirm senile fuck who can’t even go an hour without shitting himself.
Make the world see a simple truth. Easier said than done, apparently.
They do it themselves and already accuse everyone else of sharing fake stuff. Has the moral high ground really worked so far?
All I see is that lies and appeal to emotion is what has given them real power. So when it comes to ridiculing the trump administration, I say fuck it, the alternative hasn’t worked so far. It’s only gotten worse
It has nothing to do with morality. People largely distrust politicians and politics in general. “Never Trump” Republicans and middle-of-the-road Independents. People we actually do need to vote. They’ll say “both sides are the same” when they’re obviously not. When we prove them right by stooping to the extremists’ level, they disengage, along with millions of other people. They won’t trust us, and why should they?
And I ask again, has that call to voting and high-roading strategy worked so far? All I see is a fascist US that will now inevitably end in bloodshed. People already disengaged without the opposition “stooping down to extremist levels”. I’d even argue that that sort of weak opposition is exactly why people disengaged in the first place
Not to mention, the US is beyond that stage now. Fascism has arrived there, and it has entrenched itself. It will not leave peacefully, just like it didn’t historically. No matter what, it’s time for new strategies
Literally no one is saying to use the “high road”, I’m saying that, as a strategy, using disinformation will not accomplish our goals. And that’s not even taking into account the results. You think tricking people into following us based on doctored images will get loyal, dependable supporters??
Look, you have your opinion and I have mine. Plenty of progressive think tanks, organizations, podcasts, etc will do focus groups and surveys closer to the midterms elections. At which point we’ll have a better understanding of voters and messaging… In the meantime, I can only speak for myself: I, personally am far less likely to support any candidate that uses disinformation and blatant lies. Am I alone? Maybe. But I’m willing to bet there’s millions more that feel the same way…
Why don’t you just say yes, he shit his pants, and go on to something else?
I agree with you on general, but Trump literally just tried to use a doctored image to say that AG was in MS-13. This is the poetic justice.
Because… it’s not the truth? At least in regards to that edited image. Republicans may not care what’s real, but I do. Yeah, Trump’s a piece of shit. But the one thing he can never do is to turn me into one. Even if we disagree, please take care of your family, friends, and community.