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    Pug jesus your tankie bashing memes are boring trash, your attacks on voices of people who are simply against genocide are lazy, and your digs aren’t even that funny because most normal english speaking people are too busy trying to keep their lives together under late stage capitalism to in this time of ALL times care about your weird fear/obsession with Tankies, of which most english speaking people even if they didn’t have more pressing matters to worry about don’t give a shit about because for them it is like listening to someone rant about snapping turtles while they are dying of dehydration stranded hundreds of miles from the nearest puddle big enough to jam a turtle in.

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      your attacks on voices of people who are simply against genocide are lazy, and your digs aren’t even that funny because most normal english speaking people are too busy trying to keep their lives together under late stage capitalism to in this time of ALL times care about your weird fear/obsession with Tankies, of which most english speaking people even if they didn’t have more pressing matters to worry about don’t give a shit about because for them it is like listening to someone rant about snapping turtles while they are dying of dehydration stranded hundreds of miles from the nearest puddle big enough to jam a turtle in.

      Also not sure why being against Uyghur genocide is so different than being against Palestinian genocide, but I guess criticizing people for supporting genocide is only kosher if it’s one of the BAD genocides, unlike the ones supported by red fascists.

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        Funny thing. A while back I brought up Trump and the Kurds and heard the same thign; they deserved it.

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        Also not sure why being against Uyghur genocide is so different than being against Palestinian genocide

        I have no control over China, I am from the US, so it is very VERY different because almost every single bomb dropped in Gaza was gleefully given by my country to Israel.

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          I have no control over China,

          I mean, considering the slave labor from Uyghur concentration camps is an ongoing issue with regards to American consumers funding genocide, not sure that’s as true as you want it to be.

          I am from the US, so it is very VERY different because almost every single bomb dropped in Gaza was gleefully given by my country to Israel.

          So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

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            You are going to casually equate the culpability of giving a client state unlimited bombs and diplomatic cover with buying a single product in a country as a consumer from another powerful peer trading country that isn’t strictly an ally… with a straight face?

            So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

            Clearly I expect more from the citizens that reside in countries maintaining and materially supporting genocide.

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              You are going to casually equate the culpability of giving a client state unlimited bombs and diplomatic cover with buying a single product from a country as a consumer in another powerful peer trading partner… with a straight face?

              I’m going to casually equate funding genocide with funding genocide, yes. Especially since it’s far more likely that you’ve bought something made with Uyghur slave labor than it is that you’ve voted for more funding for Israeli genocidaires.

              We are not discussing “Is the US more culpable, as a polity, for one than the other”. The US is obviously more culpable in the ongoing genocide of Palestinians. We are discussing you, and what you object to, and, apparently, what genocides you think it is inappropriate even for others to object to.

              Clearly I expect more from the citizens that reside in countries maintaining and materially supporting genocide.

              So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

              It’s a simple question.

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                I’m going to casually equate funding genocide with funding genocide, yes. Especially since it’s far more likely that you’ve bought something made with Uyghur slave labor than it is that you’ve voted for more funding for Israeli genocidaires.

                I live inside a giant cancerous military complex which has focused its attention on the Palestinian Genocide not including that context here is wildly disengenous and I honestly am at a loss of how to respond.

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                  I live inside a giant cancerous military complex which has focused its attention on the Palestinian Genocide not including that context here is wildly disengenous and I honestly am at a loss of how to respond.

                  Your excuse was, and I quote:

                  I have no control over China,

                  You established that the basis for you being positive about being vocal about Palestinian genocide, but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide, was that one you, personally, could influence by your existence in a polity (the USA), and one you could not (China).

                  When confronted with the fact that you have, as an individual, probably more culpability with regards to funding the Uyghur genocide than the Palestinian genocide, you spit out some vague excuse about how addressing your argument on your argument’s own terms is ‘wildly disengenous[sic]’?

                  And again, you refuse to answer:

                  So you wouldn’t criticize someone who supported or was indifferent to Palestinian genocide, but wasn’t from the US?

                  It’s a simple question.

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                    You established that the basis for you being positive about being vocal about Palestinian genocide, but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide, was that one you, personally, could influence by your existence in a polity (the USA), and one you could not (China).

                    It is a simple distinction, Israel is a client state and is militarily, economically and politically existentially reliant on the US, China is not and can easily evade US political pressure.

                    Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

                    but overwhelmingly negative about being vocal about Uyghur genocide,

                    I literally never said that.

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            What?? I didn’t say anything to you???

            Oh sorry the comment I replied to was referencing you, sorry, thought it was tankies in general

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          A lot of people on this very platform who are the very same that are commonly described as „tankies“.

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              You’ve got a search bar and fingers don’t ya? Look some shit up before you go to bat for the fucking tankies.

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                I am not going to bat for Tankies, I am asking this little club of Tankie haters to point me in some sustantiative directions (NOT vague anecdotes) that backup the active and sustained hatred this group has for Tankies that motivates y’all to share memes about hating them quite frequently.

                If I was complaining about a group this much and had built my identity around it, I would worry people would start to think I was full of shit and trying to get everyone worried about something as a distraction from much more awful, pressing forces.

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                  Do you often think in such conspiratorial ways? You may need a therapist.

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                  If I was complaining about a group this much and had built my identity around it, I would worry people would start to think I was full of shit and trying to get everyone worried about something as a distraction from much more awful, pressing forces.

                  “had built my identity around it”

                  what

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                  … we’re on fucking Lemmy, of all places. There are tankies here, on this collection of sites.

                  Are you really saying you’ve never taken a dip in to Lemmygrad or Hexbear, or even just .ml?

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                    I have, and yeah there are ugly parts… but the point that y’all push it to insulting them just comes off as weird and insecure like this community is terrified people will overwhelmingly like Tankies more than people with your ideology which says everything about y’all and very little about Tankies which is precisely my point.