Amazon CEO Andy Jassy warns remote workers: ‘It’s probably not going to work out for you’::Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told employees who defy his edict to return to the office three days a week that “it’s probably not going to work out for you.”

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      It’s not looking good for programers in particular.

      The reason why the can get paid as much as they want is 100% based on you being able to jump ship form company to company without having to wait for a company to find common ground between you and them through a union.

      Sure, they’ll still be hugely compensated but tech companies will keep abusing interns, freelancers. Obviously outsourcing will explode even more than it already has in the last 10 years.

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        True, but that’s why you do a trade union instead of a company union. And programmers have a lot to gain. These companies, shareholders, and CEOs rake in billions that could be going to employees.

        A programmer will make a feature that saves the company a million dollars and they’ll get paid $100,000 to build it.

        Now is the best time for programmers to unionize. Do it when you already have leverage to make sure the good times stay good. Otherwise, we’ll eventually be as replaceable as drafters are now.

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          Did you mean software engineers? A professional degree is not required but it is mostly software engineers taking the positions. The job title is also software engineer.

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              It’s pretty clear you are not part of the industry. Your preference for trade like titles shows you don’t have real world experience in this industry and are just sharing opinions based on your political beliefs with no real basis on reality.

              And if you really are in the industry it’s difficult to believe that you failed to realize that 95%+ are not tradesmen and have profesional degrees in software engineering or something similar.

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                Did he ever say they were Trade Workers? The only time he mentioned Trade that I saw was talking about Trade Unions, which don’t specifically have anything to do with Trade Workers

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                  He described workers as programmers. Only a neophyte would do that.

                  When called out he doubled down instead of explaining why he doesn’t use the normal title

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            Software engineer is a stupid term akin to calling the guy at Subway a “sandwich engineer”. Which even if stupid doesn’t really affect me. But now, half the time anyone says “engineer” it’s for you programmer dudes, and not real engineers. You’ve destroyed job boards and listings.

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    That’s a really nice way of threatening to take away the livelihood and health insurance of people doing work for you.

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    The brain drain is real. Wonder how long before this boomer policy hurts Andy’s precious shareholders.

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    I’ve gotten so much recruitment crap from Amazon. This kind of crap is why none of those worked out for them.

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      I keep telling them I’m not interested, only to have someone new reach out. It’s frustrating. They don’t even pay that well.

      I guess if your desperate in the software development/DevOps industries, but even the smaller companies pay as much as they do.

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    Remote Workers warn Amazon CEO Any Jassy: 'Working for a tyrant is probably not going to work out for us."

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      A large portion of their business relies on rapid manufacturing and delivery. They’re not concerned about the environment

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        I’m not an expert in Amazon but I thought Jassy was CEO of AWS, which would be amazon web services. For the uninitiated, AWS is basically a hosting company - they don’t just provide web services for amazon.com.

        Being the CEO of a company that specializes in using the internet and making those workers come into an office is especially ghoulish.

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    I was looking at some of the Amazon postings near me, but they’re all down in Irvine.

    Pretty much the entire talents pool of LA is off limits to Amazon now.

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    You know what’s probably not going to work out for you, Andy Jassy? The next proletariat uprising.

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      That’s never going to happen.

      What really won’t work out for him is retention of top talent that values WFH.

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      I think civilization will end way before americans grow a pair of balls and stand up against this breed of assholes