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      I’ll take a bike over a car any day, but for people who were going to drive? An electric vehicle will save oil usage over an ICE one.

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        Oh this is so fucking typical. “EV” or electric vehicles never means e-bikes when it would benefit e-bikes (for example, EV subsidies = electric car subsidies) but when it conveniently makes electric cars look better, oh look an e-bike is an EV! 😒

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          Isn’t this article very clearly referring to Asian adoption of scooters, not a bunch of New Yorkers on e-bikes?

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              I mean, yes? You’re whining about US decision making around subsidies using a portion of the article discussing electric scooters in places like Taiwan. These are different continents and different vehicle types.

              A $500 subsidy on electric bicycles would not get Americans out of their cars and onto a bicycle, but it might make cyclists move to electric bikes, which wouldn’t be a behavioral change that would impact anything relevant to this study.

              I’m on your side, I wish my commute was only a couple miles. I’d ride a bicycle, and I’ve considered electric motorcycles. But you’re barking up the wrong tree, “price” is not what’s keeping Americans off of bicycles, electric or otherwise.

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                A $500 subsidy on electric bicycles would not get Americans out of their cars and onto a bicycle, but it might make cyclists move to electric bikes, which wouldn’t be a behavioral change that would impact anything relevant to this study.

                why would you think that? I think you’re wrong and price is a big factor. cyclists are unlikely to move to ebike because they can already make it work on a regular bike.

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        Strange that the parent comment is downvoted for highlighting the fact that electric bikes (and scooters & trikes) continue to make more of an impact.

        For me personally, since I got my electric bike 2 years ago, I use it at least 90% of the time to commute to work (unless the weather is too miserable).

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        31.5 gallons in a barrel so your math shows 15Mbbl saved

        Article says 1.8Mbbl

        I’m missing the discrepancy

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            While 55 gal drums are the standard physical barrel, barrels as used for oil are their own unit, and oil is rarely in actual physical barrels anymore anyways. It’s weird, but it’s how the oil industry measures it.

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          Me probably, I don’t usually have to fill up my 15-gallon tank more than once a month. I don’t have to drive a lot and my car gets 30mpg when I do.

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          I am about that. Only use my car for work and picking up kids from aftercare. I would cycle to work but there is a highway that breaks my route.

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      Yeah which is always weird. How many of those people weren’t just riding normal bikes before vs downsizing from a car. I’m on my 3rd EV and would love to bike if it were an option where I live, but if I went with a bike, I’d just be replacing another EV.

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        Assuming you could feasibly bike, it would probably still be environmentally better to use the bike, mostly because it is more energy efficient at moving a single human places because it doesn’t have to move a whole car frame, and in most places a fair amount of power is still from fossil fuels, so less would be needed. Also the other benefits of biking.

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      I’d love one! By fuck me, I clicked a Lemmy link earlier and it was $7,000 USD. Did you want gears with that? Another $1,300.

      All for a bike that won’t hit 40mph, which is hella dangerous on the open road. Couldn’t move out of danger fast enough. Had a 150cc scooter, never again, 250cc or bust.

      But still, a gas scooter burns so little gas, I’d forget to look at the tank, had no idea what gas cost at the time.

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        That’s like claiming cars are too expensive because you can’t afford a Tesla.

        I bought a wonderful ebike from REI for $1,300. You don’t need to buy the fancy luxury models.

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        $7k for an ebike? There are tons of good options for <$2000. Hell, you can get budget models on Amazon for around $300.

        And most cities have bike lanes on city streets for a reason. However, if you need to commute to work that requires you traversing a highway, then yeah, ebikes are definitely not the solution for you.

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        I just bought an E-bike with 40+ mile range for $275. 750W motor and 15Ah 48v battery bike with 7 gears, lights, an LCD, a cargo rack, and fat tires.

        It was a good sale