IT IS WAY MORE The spez exodus made me realize the difference, you can tell the content/comments are from regular people here. Sadly that too can change once those actors see Lemmy as their new platform for propaganda.
Not if Lemmy sticks to their platform.
No way it’s only 15%
Exactly. And on major subreddits it would be much higher. Worldnews at the moment just feels like IDF posting pro-genocide content, commenting, upvoting and agreeing with each other.
Reddit goes in the bin. 🚮
I’m glad I left, happy I found Lemmy
Same bestie.
I miss the old web before it was just a small bunch of major websites.
Lemmy is good now because it has that old community feel. Hopefully that can be maintained in the future by defederating from corporate and toxic instances.
Yes, the wild west of the internet days. Occasionally you can come across some gems still, but it’s not the same lol.
I know lemmy is fundamentally critic of reddit, but let’s not forget if lemmy ever achieves a significant weight in humanity’s attention, it’s not immune to such disease. The problem is systemic, not inherent of a specific platform. Any place with a lot of eyes will be susceptible to manipulation, even more so now that we have tamed artificial intelligence to write texts just about anything. We as a community need to think about countermeasures to fend this off
Only 15%? More like 99%! The most recent Gaza genocide was truly an eye opener for me.
Is all bad online behavior “trolling” now? Isn’t “shill” a better word for someone who is paid to surreptitiously promote something?
From the article…
The study’s demographic analysis further highlighted the targeted nature of corporate trolling. Younger users, particularly those aged 18–29, were significantly more likely to be contacted by corporate trolls, with 17% of them reporting such experiences, compared to only 7% of users aged 65 and over. This age-based discrepancy underscores the strategic approach of corporate trolls in engaging with a demographic that is often more susceptible to their influence.
Wow. Corporations are tagging younger generations as dumb shits. That is not cool.
Inexperience leads to easier marks. Someone who is otherwise markedly intelligent will fall for the silliest things on impulse.
Wow. Corporations are tagging younger generations as dumb shits.
I mean, I wouldn’t use that language, but yeah of course. They don’t have firm beliefs yet, in most cases, and their worldviews are more likely to be shaped by memes, whereas the older generations adopt the memes that appeal to their worldview.
If you want to shape people, you want to ideally target young adults.
I mean, I wouldn’t use that language, but yeah of course. They don’t have firm beliefs yet, in most cases, and their worldviews are more likely to be shaped by memes, whereas the older generations adopt the memes that appeal to their worldview.
I don’t think it’s just about how memes are processed. I think they really consider them less aware, less intelligent, than older generations.
And I was pointing that out is a ‘rallying cry’ to the younger generations, that this is the level respect they’re getting, and that they should do something about it, hence the stronger language.
less aware, less intelligent, than older generations.
This is true, but not generationally. Rather, the younger someone is, the less they generally know, and the more.opinions can be shaped.
There’s a reason all radical movements throughout history have been driven by the young, and it isn’t because the young thought up the ideas. Younger people generally have a different view on new information, especially information that points to problems they perceive, than older people.
If you’re trying to have a social media presence you are de facto targeting a younger audience
This is true, but not generationally. Rather, the younger someone is, the less they generally know, and the more.opinions can be shaped.
You’re not wrong, but you’re also wrong. :p
What I mean is that normally, youth is less “wise” than elders, because of how long they’ve been alive. The more mileage you put into Life the more you figure out. Its one of the great ironies of the human species that just as we finally start to get wise enough to figure out WTF is really going on, we drop dead. And even worse, trying to pass off some of that wisdom to the previous generation usually falls on deaf ears, because its seen as ‘old person yells at clouds to get off of their lawn’ by the younger generation.
Having said that, I’m still going to disagree with you in that the original comment is specificially (IMO) targeting the newest generations as specific entities onto themselves, and not just more youthful; the first post-new Internet generation, as being less informed/aware.
If you’re trying to have a social media presence you are de facto targeting a younger audience
One does not beget the other though, its just a coincidence. The ‘de facto’ is targeting the dummer/spends more crowd, not a specific age crowd. If older generations were ‘dumb’ and spent more, they would be the ones targeted.
. If older generations were ‘dumb’ and spent more, they would be the ones targeted.
You can see this playing out now in the grifting ecosystem built around Trump and the “alternative news” crowd. Again, this targets people with set opinions, seeking to double down on them.
The claim here is that companies are specifically aiming to shape opinions rather than exploit existing ones.
I think this is a meaningful difference
They’ve taken over moderation too. I criticized a local restaurant that got passed down from father to son, and got banned. I did call the son a trump loving shitstain so that might’ve had something to do with it.
It pisses me off how kid-friendly everything has become online. You can’t swear at people and call them fucking idiots no matter how warranted it may be. People censor “removed” because it’s a ‘gay-slur’ but in the UK it’s a food type and a fag is a cigarette. “LatinX” and “unaliving” are things. There’s Reddit subs where people can say “nigga” without being banned because it’s assumed they’re all black. But it’s online so there’s no way of fucking knowing!!
I feel like the Internet is turning into a fucking kiddie day care centre for young adult Americans.
It’s insidious too. I didn’t realise how much I was self-censoring until I came to Lemmy and started swearing more in comments. On Reddit I’d been talking like a guy surrounded by children, afraid to swear, lest I offend someone.
At least here I feel like I can express thoughts and feelings.
People censor “removed” because it’s a ‘gay-slur’
You have got to be fucking shitting me?! Fagg-OT is a FOOD! You fucking spanner twat mods/admins.
Reddit-rot is spreading to Lemmy. Fuck this noise.
People here definitely don’t mind expressing themselves. That’s both a good and bad thing. Remember gamergate? Yeah those idiots are here too.
That’s all? woulda guessed higher
Facebook trolls are here so beware
DoNT TeLl ME Wut 2 dO!
No need to read the article, and check my comment history if you doubt it…
I want to add that this is only part of it. The secret “secret” arent the bots in the system coming from the outside. Its how the content is manipulated from the inside.
The entire modern Marvel and Starwars franchises owe themselves to reddit.
I wish Reddit hadn’t banned me. Doomscrolling was so much fun. I’d easily take a month ban and go to “Reddit Jail”. I don’t care that it’s all bots and dead internet. But, now I’m here.
