• confuser@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    How do the sith come up with these names anyways?

    Are they always given by the master?

    And what is the reason for doing this at all?

    What does Darth Vader even mean?

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      After some googling, it doesn’t really seem like there is a lore/in universe explanation, which I find surprising after having the Disney EU and the legends EU. Some sith are named after a character quality, so maybe you could assume the dark side of the force revealed it to the master that named them?

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      Darth is dark in German. Vader is Dutch for father (Vater is German for father).

      George Lucas actually named Darth Vader. The content in the movies is made up.

      “Dark Father”; he was given the name for fairly obvious reasons by George Lucas I would think.

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        A common story, but not true. When Lucas was filming Star Wars he hadn’t yet had the idea that Vader was Luke’s father, hence the clumsy retcon about Vader killing Luke’s father ‘from a certain point of view’ in Return of the Jedi. Vader is just shortened ‘invader’, the dutch translation is just serendipity (or proof that the force is real).

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        I hate it when people act like this. You know there is a mythology in Star Wars and you know that is what people are discussing but instead you are taking a meta shit over everything. Find a better hobby.

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        So I looked into this more and basically Darth is a title given to sith lords, others have had it like Darth tyranus and Darth sidious, but here is the kicker.

        Darth Vader’s fatherhood was only conceived of after the character was introduced in empire strikes back, so the name was not necessarily related to fatherhood in the story and the only reason I could think of for it existing is just because it sounded cool.

        A possible reason could be that Darth is a combo of dark and death and Vader is possibly short for invader.

        Otherwise I’m not sure if there is any clear reason for the name that is undeniably the reason for the name.

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      9 hours ago

      But… That’s like the whole point… No?

      Like, imagine if a pope called himself Larry, just “Pope Larry”, instead of picking the name of a saint

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        Maybe to the audience, but do the Sith believe they’re evil? Does any evil person? Everyone is the good guy in their own story.

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          Of all characters, yes Emperor Palpatine knows he is evil and he loves it. Sometimes villains are nuanced and sympathetic. Sometimes they are evil space wizards who are passionate for the game.

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            Palpatine is the absolute only instance that the evil wizards plot fucking worked.

            Bro was just yucking it up between episode 2 and 6. He couldn’t fucking believe how well it worked. He was so giddy.

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          Legends’ Sith are mostly about might makes right. They don’t really care about good or evil. Can’t really speak for whatever changed, if anything, on the new canon.