• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    It’s simple: Germany always does what Israel wants.

    You know, because of our history.

    There are many people (especially the older generation) who think we as Germans can’t say anything bad about Israel no matter what they do.

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      11 months ago

      I do not think anyone expects Germany to say anything bad about Israel. The problem is that they went on to defend what Israel is doing. Germany did not need to speak, yet they chose to in favour of Israel.

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      I think it is understandable, but it is also a little sad. Germans are good people and they are carrying a pretty big bag on the back. Israel will end cleaning from palestinians gaza and in 2 years nobody will care about what happened.

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          I understand that after everything they did, a big chunk of the German population is reluctant to move a finger against israel.

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      11 months ago

      And wounded or mailed many more! Not to mention making large parts of the strip uninhabited and leaving hundreds of thousands without homes.

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    The west at the beginning: Gaza is not a concentration camp, they have (a little) food and water and a “safe zone” in the south!

    The west now: You have to kill at least 6 million for it to classify as genocide

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      11 months ago

      800,000 to 1,000,000. That’s how many Tutsis were killed by the Hutus in the Rwandan genocide of 1994.

      /s in case that isn’t blatantly obvious

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    I heard a newspaper opinion piece in the radio here in German that clearly didn’t know the difference between genocide and holocaust. I mean, c’mon, read a book before you publish a newspaper!

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      There were lots of genocides in our history, but only one Holocaust and there always will be one Holocaust, even in future history, where more genocides are bound to happen, sadly.

      I am German, though raised mostly in Brazil, Colombia and the USA. The Holocaust is still THE genocide in recent history. “The Nazis” is a beloved trope in the media, in order to unmistakably portray pure evil, never able to redeem itself.

      Being raised in different countries, made me create very little nationalistic feelings for any country. But still, i feel the weight of what was done in WW2 … How could we do this, especially the apathy in the population. Come on, from a certain point, everybody must have known, what Hitler’s plan was.

      We all know this, but there is no answer as to how this could happen, since Germans are not like this. How could we be ok with this and, as records show, proudly stand by it? It’s something looming in the background of germany’s daily life.

      Nobody wants something like this to happen again, but the uncertainty of how it was possible in past, makes it really difficult to even deal with this.

      This surely will change as fine passes by and future generations won’t have the Holocaust as something that happened to their parents generation.

      To publicly say that Israel is going bad things, specially genocide, is something no german will be able to do easily.

      The commitment given to Israel by Germany and also the USA, was a noble and only correct action in the past, but to be real, became a fucking mindmelting Problem now.

      If this would be happening 200 years from now? Germany and USA would be going into this, without the much too recent WW2 baggage.