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    10 months ago

    I will pay for premium when it means they will not sell my data and will allow me control over my algorithm to prevent it from playing to my vulerabilities. Since they won’t change, I won’t pay.

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    Not to be rude, but I’m struggling to believe half the comments in this thread are legit. Do you really mean to tell me that Lemmy, a platform notoriously populated almost exclusively by anti-corporate tech people that really value FOSS and privacy –hence the reason why all of us are here instead of Reddit– has this many users thinking it is a remotely acceptable idea to pay for a Premium service for one of the most invasive companies online?

    I think most of us understand the many underhanded techniques used by Google to achieve an almost monopolistic control of some aspects of the internet, but when talking about YouTube, suddenly all the logic is reduced to “if you use a service, pay for it, or else let them show you ads”?? what??? Also, what’s with comparing adblocking to stealing???

    My own answer to the topic of this thread is that no, I won’t be paying for YouTube Premium anytime soon, possibly ever. Google has betrayed my trust many times in the past, and on top of that I don’t consider adverts as a legitimate source of income, so I will block any and all ads everywhere without paying an extra cent.

    “But if you keep using their service, so you need to give them some form of revenue! Otherwise you just want free stuff!” I only keep using their service because Google has spent many years dumping on other platforms so that YouTube is –almost– the only platform that still exists where all the good creators are, so I will begrudgingly watch them on YouTube because there aren’t any options. But I will resist Google’s many insidious attempts to monetize me to the best of my ability while doing so.

    That said, it’s really dishonest to claim that people who block ads on YouTube just want free stuff and don’t understand that services have a cost. Personally, I pay for Nebula because I do support the project and the creators involved. But YouTube won’t see a cent from me, not with my consent at least.

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      Shoutout to Nebula! I might pay for it but it’s like old YouTube without the bullshit. Worth it in my opinion.

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      Absolutely agree with the youtube subscription part. I am not giving them money if i can.

      So what do I do? Patreon. I watch ad free, and i give 1 dollar a month instead on patreon. Win-win.

      P.S. However, this way only a select few get money from me, but it is what it is.

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      I’m only here because Reddit pissed me off. I toss money toward my instance and I’d be fine tossing a few bucks per month to YouTube if it meant no ads.

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      Half the community came from reddit during 3rd party app purge it’s no surprise they wouldn’t be too concerned or know anything about privacy

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    10 months ago

    "They do want to pay for premium! They just don’t understand what a great value it is! SHOW THEM THE AD AGAIN! SHOW THEM ON EVERY VIDEO SO THEY WILL UNDERSTAND!!! "

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    Im not holding my breath for someone to start hosting petabytes of videos for free. I don’t like ads, so I’m just going to pay.

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    They should include sponsorblock with youtube premium, I won’t pay 12€ per month to watch more ads than on free tv. Youtube doesn’t even make their own content. 5€ max for youtube would be okay with no ads.

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      Absolutely. 5$,sponsor block, no ads and no music premium bullshit. I don’t want it.

      Edit: I forgot! Give me the fucking downvote count back so I can quickly know which videos are bullshit you assholes!

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      YouTube cannot do that. YouTube’s content legal system does not allow this.

      That said, I use SponsorBlock and love it to the degree of finding it necessary depending on what type of content I am watching.

      Why do people hate YouTube Premium anyway? I don’t quite get it. I have had it since it was available in my country, and I love it.

      Also, I have to say I use the YouTube Vanced app with SponsorBlock and custom layout (no shorts, no uploads, no etc.) and YouTube Premium subscription. I don’t like the default YouTube app.

      So, I don’t know if I like YouTube or just the model and content/creators behind it.

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          Yeah, I know that, XD but why?

          What makes it so that you think you should be able to get creators and their content, server capacity, and storage for free? Who should be paying for it in your mind? Who should eat the cost? The creators, the platform, or the user? or all of them to a degree? And who should be able to profit?

          I think it’s pretty clear that the end-user will carry most of the cost in the end.

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    The problem is that they actually don’t mean that. And truthfully I don’t mind the idea of paying for video hosting, that shit’s expensive, but YouTube is going about it in the worst way possible.

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      This idea that nobody on the internet is willing to pay for anything is outdated. Most people know that if it’s not money, they’re paying in data, time and/or attention. I much prefer paying with money, as do most people that use Proton, Kagi and other paid alternatives to free Google products.

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    I would be fine paying for a YouTube premium account if I could get one for like $3-4 that just removes the ads. I don’t want their music service.

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        Yep. With the 1999 MP3 quality, arbitrary intro tunes, and everything. Such a pity, Play Music was extremely good.

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          What’s worse is that they are folding podcasts into it. Google Podcasts at least had a nice timeline based feed of your podcasts all in one place. YouTube music, to see my podcasts? Open app, tap podcasts, under your shows, click more, then new episodes. And if you finish an episode of whatever your listening to, instead of the next in the sequence, it just starts playing random shit like an animation compilation from a podcast that I don’t listen or subscribe to. YouTube Music is trash. I don’t need another “Everything” app. Just fuck off and let me listen.

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        I don’t get what you think that “realization” changes. I occasionally watch videos on YouTube and I’d be willing to pay a certain amount to watch to those videos without ads. Since they don’t offer that, I’m not paying them any money. For the record, they did offer such a plan called “YouTube Premium Lite” not that long ago and they axed it.

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    Time to switch to private invidious/piped instances been using it myself with Yattee app on iOS

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    YouTube premium has millions of users and it makes them literally billions of dollars. There is no boulder.

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    I pay for YouTube Premium. I didn’t really want that, I just wanted YouTube Music, but it didn’t make sense to just pay for YT Music. I don’t want Spotify and Amazon Music kinda sucks so YT music worked best.

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      Same for me but in reverse.
      Remove music, deduct 2-3 € from the bill and I’d be happy enough with it.
      Spotify suits my use case way better.

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    I read everyone bitching about the ads but I don’t get them, and I have access to an awesome music streaming service too… you know, cause I have premium…