I post the article because it’s from Boston’s official government website so progressive icon Michelle Wu had to have signed off on it
I feel like this is bad because I know this sounds bad but men don’t deserve this, their insecurity,ego and feelings of inadequacy are what got Trump elected here and will likely lead to an AFD government in Germany and an NR government in France.
I feel by doing this we are letting them win and validating their feelings and by extension their persecution complex so now they have every incentive to throw a fit and threaten to vote for and then end up actually voting for right wing parties.
Yeh yeh men have problems to I read bell hooks ok but they have problems in the same way white people have problems, we need to not give in and weather the storm like we did for white people throwing a fit when they started losing status and privilege.
Because we won that fight, we did organized whiteness has gone the way of the dodo when in 2017 with the alt right it felt like ti was taking the world by storm.
It sounds like you have a lot of hurt wrapped up in this and I am sorry for that. Men are people. A lot of alt right men were led down a path by people who cared, because others did not and told them they were the opressor and enemy when in reality they were lost and without social connection. Men do not get socialized in the same way women do and beating on them like this rather than offering a hand in help is what led to this exact thing.
You also sound young as well as full of energy on this topic. You are losing the human perspective in favor of us versus them politics. You are perpetuating it.
Please think about what you are doing, I don’t think me debating you further will lead to anything.
Sincerely a leftist white man who loves all people and wants us all to get along and support one another.
I have heard this narrative before that the alt right recruited from white men who were sad and these chuds told them they were valid yeh yeh.
No we need to beat on them more and if they feel guilty then they should just stop doing what they’re doing
You also sound young as well as full of energy on this topic. You are losing the human perspective in favor of us versus them politics. You are perpetuating it.
on some level it always comes down to us vs them
Here is my other point, I feel like the leftist policy for men has failed becuase we can’t decide if we’re tryign to appeal to their cyncial best interest or appeal to their high minded sense of virtue I think we are trying to do both and not doing either and the fact we have to censor our rhetoric and the rage of millions of ppresed women to avoid hurting their feefees is proof.
I think if we’re going to appeal to their concsicus we shoudln’t pull any punches or censor anything and if they see the erro in their ways welcome to the team, if not then they weren’t worth having anyways.
If we’re going to just bribe them we need to do it better and realize if you want the carrot and stick to work we have to give the carrot. How can we do that you may ask ? Well I work in the porn indudstry so I know that porn is very powerful people are passionate about it and devote a lot of time adm oney to it Most of the porn industry is either idoelogically progressive or cynically progressive since they know a chud occupied government would derail the gravy train.
So why don’t we use porn as a way to raise funds and get the word out there. Let’s invite populr beloved OF models to rallies to do meet and greets, let’s have leftist non profits do fund raising initves with models to sell them videos cheaper then their normal rates (the ycould write this off on their taxes to I know a lot of celebs do this)
So why don’t we use porn as a way to raise funds and get the word out there. Let’s invite populr beloved OF models to rallies to do meet and greets, let’s have leftist non profits do fund raising initves with models to sell them videos cheaper then their normal rates (the ycould write this off on their taxes to I know a lot of celebs do this)
Holy shit, there’s so much wrong with this that I don’t even want to touch it. No, porn should not be used as a replacement for proper mental health support, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I didn’t even suggest that but if men decide they prefer porn to therapy who are we to tell them they are wrong.
also no touch it tell me what is wrong with it.
This is shattering the mirror because one dislikes the reflection. To change the reflection requires we work on ourselves.
I feel like this is bad because I know this sounds bad but men don’t deserve this, their insecurity,ego and feelings of inadequacy are what got Trump elected here and will likely lead to an AFD government in Germany and an NR government in France.
Didn’t around 44% of women voted for Trump? Should their rights be taken away? Not only that, 44% of men voted for Kamala. Are you suggesting they don’t deserve rights either? This isn’t a men vs women like you think. You’re in this situation because women voted for it too. Bigotry has no gender.
that was only white women Black women are the DNC’s biggest voter base
I am not even advocating taking their rights away. They can still play their video games, bet on their sporrtsball games and watch their porn maybe even pay a sugar baby if they finaly a get a job I don’t care
I support a month for both men’s mental health and LGBTQ pride, but the positioning of both is a bit hamfisted and could be read into maliciously.
Fact is though, if we do not support men in some way, the alienation turns them into enemies. I would much prefer an ally to support, no?
am I talking to Neville Chamberlain here. We shouldn’t appease fascist men. If men feel alienated by feminism or women’s empowerment then you don’t want them on yoru side anyways.
We tried compromising with them. Plenty of women still date and want relationships with men even though it has literally no benefit, they have tons of porn they can watch with the possibility of legalized prostitution already being talked about and if that isn’t good enough they can just transition and be a woman which they won’t because they know women are still oppressed and they hate women.
Their misogyny is why women don’t want them and why women are saying no. Most men are just not worth it.
You’re equating men’s mental health with the three factors in your post.
Mental health is health. They aren’t separate. It’s absurd to propose that men’s health should be suppressed. Does that not insinuate that non-Nazi men have no (mental) health issues?
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They are quite entertaining, in a “watching a mental breakdown” sort of way.
We need to stop doing that and engage.
why ?
Because it’s on the Cluster B spectrum, and we’re not therapists, and would rather isolate the mirror than look long and hard., to sort distorted illusion from visible scars and other imperfections, likely.
Handwrite this in a journal and come back when more emotionally settled.
So you want them to keep voting for Trump instead of getting mental help or what?
You alright? 3 Posts in like 20mins is a lot, maybe take a breather.
i also haven’t posted on lemmy in like 2 weeks because the laptop i had lemmy on was left at my moms house and i was to lazy to change my password
