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My non-expert take on this:
Haier claims these plugins cause the firm significant financial damage
Don’t care. Competition is not damage.
violate copyright laws
Prove it.
plug-ins developed by you […] that are in violation of our terms of service
The plug-ins never agreed to your ToS. Better sue your customers instead.
Hijacking the comment to say: Fork the shit out of this repo immediately. Fuck Haier.
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Move that shit to Gitlab and have some of it saved offline for good measure.
Make it like the Barbara Streisand effect but for a FOSS project lol.
Yeah they have no legal basis for their ridiculous claims and demands. This company is just full of shit.
If any appliance manufacturer says that accessing your own appliance (that you own) outside their software ecosystem is financially “damaging” to them, they might as well be saying “Hey, just so you know, we’re collecting and selling your data.” If you have already purchased the appliance and their software is free, there is absolutely no other way that using a 3rd-party application could damage their bottom line.
Thanks, Haier, for letting me know never to purchase your products.
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“Hey! We were gonna charge a subscription for that! Fuck you for doing it first, competition is not allowed.”
Matter. Get it adopted. Buy and implement only Matter devices in the future.
Needs a year or two, but if we can get that tech widespread, this cloud stuff will be less essential.
That’s interesting.
Here is a better link for it that isn’t pushing Google products. Not implying you are doing that, just wanted to provide a non Google link is all.
Or, you know, just don’t buy smart devices. They are pointless wastes of money and don’t solve any problem but the imaginary problem their marketing made you think actually exists.
But they do create a whole lot of actual problems by having them in your home, and on your network.
Which is better than just supporting something that google, amazon, and apple have developed. Which makes it inherently suspect and suspicious, and anyone with a brain should have an intense primal need to avoid anything being pushed by those 3 individually… much less working together as one.
Matter, if implemented correctly, would save them all money and allow the privacy conscious to drop the cloud.
They are losing money on their voice assistants, so they want out of the business of being the voice part of the central hub.
They’ll find ways to monetize the users who are less privacy concerned, but that’s not me and I think it’s not a lot of people who are here.
Ediit: I didn’t downvote you. I’m here for discourse and have found down votes don’t help that.
I don’t care if you did down or up vote me.
Being upvoted doesnt make someone right, and being downvoted doesnt make someone wrong. Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.
Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.
Or, you know, just maybe, it’s another form of communication, and does have some use.
No, its a parasite thats been added to communication, to its great detriment, to trick fools into fighting for points in a dopamine driven addiction scam and is directly responsible for the polarized and extreme direction human interaction has taken online.
It is literally destroying communication. Not enhancing it. not providing another form.
No, its a parasite thats been added to communication, to its great detriment, to trick fools into fighting for points in a dopamine driven addiction scam and is directly responsible for the polarized and extreme direction human interaction has taken online.
It is literally destroying communication. Not enhancing it. not providing another form.
Wonder if you still feel this way when a comment of yours gets many upvotes, instead of downvotes?
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There are problems they can actually solve, mostly heating and power related:
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In summer, lower the blinds on south facing windows when the sun comes up to reduce solar heating, then raise them in the evening to increase air flow against the window panes. This reduces the need for air conditioning, resulting in a surprising amount of power saved.
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On a home solar system, start the washing machine, dishwasher, and dryer that were loaded in the morning when the batteries reach 80% charge. Allow them to run off the inverter rather than taking the charge/discharge losses involved in battery storage, reducing the size of both battery bank and solar array needed.
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Lower the freezer temperature when there is a power surplus, and raise it back to normal when not so that cooling energy is used when it’s cheapest/most available
If you don’t work from home, you can’t do the second two yourself. They require automation. Reducing baseload requirements and battery storage needs can make a transition to renewable power much cheaper and more efficient. With mass adoption, that extends to power grids and not just off-grid homes, and has significant effects on things like the amount of lithium that needs to be mined or the number of coal and LNG power plants that are needed for times that are off-peak for wind and solar generation.
On a home solar system, start the washing machine, dishwasher, and dryer that were loaded in the morning when the batteries reach 80% charge. Allow them to run off the inverter rather than taking the charge/discharge losses involved in battery storage, reducing the size of both battery bank and solar array needed.
If thats such a world ending colossal issue for you (hint. its not. literally no one will ever have that problem, but lets humor your ridiculous made up bullshit), then https://www.amazon.com/TiFFCOFiO-Mechanical-Electrical-Outlets-Repeating/dp/B0BCKDTS1G. Cheaper, more reliable, and doesnt open your asshole to the internet for fucking.
Lower the freezer temperature when there is a power surplus, and raise it back to normal when not so that cooling energy is used when it’s cheapest/most available
Literally a waste of money and power to buy a thing thats even capable of playing that stupid game with temperature digitally. Set your freezer to -18c/0f and leave it the fuck alone. If you want to save power and be more efficient, get a chest freezer, and make a diagram of whats where inside it so you can grab it easily without fucking around. Anything else is just a completely made up solution in desperate search for a made up problem to justify it, by and for people who have far to much money and far to little common sense.
Your ridiculous stretching to try to justify smart bullshit is doing nothing but showing how useless and how much of a waste of time, energy, and effort it is.
literally no one will ever have that problem, but lets humor your ridiculous made up bullshit
Wow, your username really fits.
Actually, it’s a description of some of the issues I’m dealing with right now. And yes, we’re DIYing it with RJ45 wired switching outlets on a separate vlan and subnet. And yes, we use a chest freezer.
And yes, there are more automatic and passive ways to do some of these things, like planting deciduous trees to shade your south wall in summer but not winter. Not everyone owns their home and land though.
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I don’t use Haier products but a similar thing happened with Chamberlain when they blocked the MyQ integration even though it was using the legitimate API and not breaking any rules. No attempt to work with anyone in the HA community at all, just shut everything down.
On one hand, this means projects like Home Assistant are getting popular enough to have enough usage to effect these companies. So that’s great! In the long term, we’ll all figure out solutions, but in the short term it feels like an increasing fight between corporate and open-source control over smart devices.
Just here to leave the daily reminder that API reimplementation may constitute fair use under certain circumstances.
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That is one ugly ass building. It looks like it’s swelling from long term water damage.
It’s a shit company for pulling this, for sure. But I kinda like the building.
No opinion on Haier but I also like the design. I appreciate an architect who designs something outaide of the literal box.
Last Haier appliance I had was a heap of shit anyway so no great loss avoiding their garbage in the future.
I was under the impression they were dead and gone for about 20 years.
The tv I had 20 years ago was garbage and I assumed they were just some shitty knockoff brand. Surprises me that they own GE.
Last thing I had was a dishwasher by them a couple of years ago. Seals leaked about 6 months out of warranty and it cost about as much as a new one to replace them.
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So what do we do, all fork the repos and upload the source to archive.org?
That would be illegal, and you should absolutely not do that. Just like you shouldn’t clone the invidious repos just in case (/s)
It may or may not be illegal, they’re just throwing their weight around under the suggestion that it’s illegal. Knowing well that a single dev working on a plugin in their freetime isn’t likely to want to invest in legal proceedings.
Which is even more reason to do the above, to stick it to them.
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