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      10 months ago

      No shit, the only thing leftists want to pull down are systems of exploitation.

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        At the same time, privileged people will still sometimes feel a loss of something when you’re portioning out a finite resource. So if a particular group is 25% of the population and they were getting 75% of the pie before and now they’re getting 25% of the pie, that’s a loss. It’s a justified loss, but it’s still a loss.

        That said, there are other things like rights that are not finite in any meaningful sense of the word. When someone is feeling a loss because an oppressed group gained rights, it’s usually because they’re an oppressive asshole.

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      That IS the point, and rarely do equality or equity initiatives “pull down” anyone.

      But the Haves feel like they’ve earned their position, and that means that if you help a Have Not in any way, you are taking away from their achievement (which in this case is “not being born poor/black/female”)

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      That’s well and good, but bringing everyone up needs to be done in consideration of lasting multigenerational harm from what has come previously, and areas where we as a people and nation continue to marginalize, underserve, and sometimes actively harm some segments of our population.

      Folks who think those things should be ignored are not actually interested in bringing everyone up.

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    ♪If you’re looking for me, You better check under the sea, 'cause that is where you’ll find me, Underneath the sea, lab, Underneath the water, Sealab, at the bottom of the sea.♪

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    I think a lot of equity arguments bug me because they often fail to address the real issue (at least in the workplace). It’s a matter of attitude, rather than parity/proportionality.

    However much we hate it, the majority of people in a stem field will still seek a straight white man out when we look for authority/expertise. That isn’t because they are the greatest expert, or that they hold the highest accessible authority, but because it is an ingrained belief. That’s just wrong, on so very many levels, that I cannot even begin to express how stupid it is.

    Some people have spotted this issue, but their solution is abhorrent - denigrate this group. Raise a generation that looks on this group with contempt, to at least remove the component of authority. It will solve the problem, but it will create a lot more down the line as it becomes the accepted solution. Shall we have a generational genetic lottery forever?

    Oddly enough, I think the “blurring of gender lines” brought about by the trans movement might offer a more meaningful solution to some part of this problem, as it erases the categories themselves, rather than attempting to shift their position.

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      Imo blurring genderlines and rendering them useless as a meaningful measure of power is precisely why so many in power now don’t want the gender/trans movement to gain any traction. If people were to realize that gender truly was nothing more than your outward appearance and did not in any way impact someone’s ability to gain power, knowledge, or success then we could end up with a WOMAN in powerful positions or even worse the women could actually start to gain allies with the power to change things when former white cishet male presenting people who still speak with their white cishet friends about all the I justices women face start to get outraged on their friends behalf.

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      Jokes on them. If I want to peruse the expertise of someone at my workplace, I just look for the Asian dude. The white people would be for gossip or talking about food or complaining about stuff. /S

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    This is funny because the cishet white guy the meme refers to thinks it’s his right to stand-your-ground a guy walking around the neighborhood.

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    Equal rights are a threat to hegemony. Losing hegemony is scary for the privileged, as it is status quo.

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      Reporter: [REDACTED]
      Reason: racism

      Good luck with that, reporter.