‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything::The term describes the slow decay of online platforms such as Facebook. But what if we’ve entered the ‘enshittocene’?

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    10 months ago

    A link to an article about enshittification that’s just a solid paywall…

    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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      Not just a paywall, but a cookie dialog taking up more than my whole phone screen, where you have to click into it to “reject all” (and it doesn’t reject all), just to get to the paywall

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      A paywall you find only after you have to manually reject cookies. Done? Okay, here’s your paywall!

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      When your only claim to fame is jamming the word “shit” into other words…

      You need to milk all that ad money out of it you can.

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        FWIW Cory Doctorow was famous before coining that word. He’s done a lot of great work. You should research before saying things.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow

            Awards
            
                2000 John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer[91]
                2004 Locus Award for Best First Novel for Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom
                2004 Sunburst Award for A Place So Foreign and Eight More
                2006 Locus Award for Best Novelette for "I, Robot"
                2007 Locus Award for Best Novelette for "When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth"
                2007 The Electronic Frontier Foundation Pioneer Award[92]
            
            For Little Brother
            
                2009 John W. Campbell Memorial Award[93]
                2009 Prometheus Award[45]
                2009 Sunburst Award[46]
                2009 White Pine Award[94]
                2018 Inkpot Award[95]
            
            For Pirate Cinema
            
                2013 Prometheus Award[45]
            
            For Homeland
            
                2014 Prometheus Award[45]
            
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              Yeah, I saw those on Wikipedia…

              Honestly the only impressive bit was an xkcd character is based on him.

              Like, you know it’s not amount the amount of awards, it’s the quality?

              Like those Prometheus awards, those are just for libertarians and they have like five winners a year.

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                  I don’t think you understand how many awards there are for writing…

                  Do you know about any of those or do you assume any award is prestigious?

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            So hard to lift a finger to do the work yourself while you’re shitposting. Follow your own handle’s advice.

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        CD is a beast. One hell of a great guy. I have actually donated money to some of his more worthy causes before.

        Ft It’s kind of a s*** hole though. And for the paywall to abruptly block you outright not a single word not a hook, which is kind of weird because it’s a little bit against what he stands for I know it’s not apples to apples…

        I read the article. It’s kind of disappointing, somewhat of a Nothing Burger.

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    ‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything

    Subscribe to unlock this article

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      Dude, I was trying to deal with the fucking Fullscreen cookie popup when the subscribe to unlock bullshit popped up and I just closed it immediately

      Couldn’t send that point home any harder

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      “See? Look!”

      This article brought to you by the ultimate enshittifier of news, the Financial Times. The reason’s in the name!

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    The tech world is going downhill fast. Anything that isn’t currently obtainable through only foss means isn’t going to be attainable by the average person for much longer.

    The tech things most people currently enjoy will soon become entirely unaffordable to anyone not made of money. Anything that you aren’t willing to switch to an open source alternative for, prepare to learn to live without it.

    I even self host my own music streaming. I never had a streaming service, not even in 2012 when Netflix was all the rage. I don’t even own a windows compatible pc. I don’t even know what modern ms office looks like. I use my home network more than I use the actual internet just about.

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      What can’t I do with FOSS though?

      Whatever you’re about to say, let’s crowd fund it. I’m not even kidding.

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        Use industry software standards. Adobe, Autodesk etc etc. I know, these solutions sucks, but it is the world people live it. Most Lemmy people are into tech for the sake of tech. You are technological literate to the highest degree. Understand and critique developments in tech. Very important work! However, a graphical designer probably isn’t that literate and wouldn’t be able to do work in a Foss environment. Yes, 1 in a 1000 might use Gimp but good luck colabbing with other people in the industry.

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          Yeah I know Gimp doesn’t use(or didn’t last time I checked) CMYK and as someone who does QA for flexographic printing, I know how that’s important.

          You’d think the world would put some effort into getting away from Adobe. All my homies hate Adobe.

          So. Why don’t we crowd fund our way to better solutions for these things?

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            Krita is actually a very professional choice for some things people think they need Adobe products for. And it looks like Krita has CMYK support. Giving Krita more attention that it deserves would be welcome.

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            There are open models that one can download on HuggingFace and run locally, but they are not as good as ChatGPT4 which has had insane® amounts of resources thrown at.

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              But don’t we have to go through openai for gpt anyhow? Always have a browser for that.

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                I don’t understand your question. GPT is proprietary and hosted by OpenAI. There are other large language models (LLM) that one can download (or even train if they are open-source or at least have a descriptive scientific paper and open training data) and host themselves, but they are not as powerful.

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                  So there’s no advantage to having windows as opposed to Linux for using it.

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        Security camera stuff is really lacking. The only good one is zoneminder. It mostly works but it breaks a lot.

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    If a service becomes shitty it is almost always due to corporate greed. It usually starts with data-mining your subscribers without their knowledge or consent. Then it moves on to making the service itself worse by introducing advertising and making changes to the interface that forces them to VIEW those ads instead of the content they came for.

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    I often wonder: can we start over? Like, can we just do MySpace again?..or have another YouTube that’s like before Google bought it? If we hate how tech bros have destroyed the fun, is there a way to redux the pre-tech bro wonder years?

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    Until governments get serious about trust busting, it will keep happening. Companies that don’t have to compete enshittify.

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      Monopolies don’t matter in this case. The market has been saturated. Nearly everyone pays for a streaming service; probably 2 or 3. There are no “new customers” so all that’s left is to squeeze existing customers even more.

      Same things happened with Peloton. Pretty much everyone that would buy their products have and they’re not buying a second bike or treadmill, so they introduced tiers of service. Pay more or you get fewer features.

      This is what capitalism demands. Ever increasing profits by any means necessary.

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        If the market was competitive, people would just choose another product or service that didn’t use such practices as you can clearly be profitable without doing this.

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          You’ll only get “competition” in the streaming space if you could eliminate most or all of the exclusive content. You want to switch to send the message you’re unhappy but you’d probably be just as unhappy or moreso with a service that has nothing you care to watch.

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      If everyone who complained about ads in Prime and Netflix canceled their accounts, then Prime and Netflix would be motivated to remove their ads.

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        Fr the longest time, I got Prime because of Prime. The ebooks and videos were just an included bonus. The bonus going to shit doesn’t change what the original decision was based on.

        Prime video has been on this road for a long time, as videos with ads took o paver more and more of its Home Screen. It got more and more annoying clicking past the clutter of “FreeVee” videos to find stuff I wanted to watch, but I guess it’s all stuff to click past now

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        The minute I got the prime notification I went and canceled immediately. And same with Netflix, I wish more people would do the same.

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    It was coming for absolutely everything since 2013 at least.

    I will never forget the day when Creative Suite was no longer a thing. I will never forget the day when Apple flattened iOS. I will never forget the day when the Xbox One was announced.

    Can you believe their modern products are basically a continuation of what they started back in 2013? This is why it’s the worst year of all time.

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    Corporate greed is ruining everything, as per… But hey! We have a cool edgy new tech term for it now!

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    How has healthcare software like MyChart been enshittified? It’s probably the tech I care the most about and the tech no one seems to talk about.

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    Enshitification only comes for the things capitalism touches… So yeah, everything…

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      Enshitification comes because of the unsustainable growth required by Capitalism in order to appease shareholders. Line must always go up!

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        Enshittification comes from failure of government to establish a market where capitalism acts for the benefit of society. It comes from failure of antitrust regulations, failure of consumer protections, failure of broadcaster fairness doctrine, failure to reward a sustainable business model rather than simply maximizing quarterly profit, failure to support public broadcasting, failure to mandate ethics/honesty/transparency, failure to incent public good such environmental responsibility.

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    I wish it wouldn’t come to products… I understand the need to make a profit, but it shouldn’t come at the cost of landfilling perfectly good hardware. I’d love just an affordable tablet with 5+ years of updates and an unlocked boot loader maybe with NO battery, and just a USB