• elrik@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Can someone provide some context here? Why is he screaming at a coach?

    Also side note: why is that even vaguely tolerable behavior for a professional sports player / role model?

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      He had one target for one yard in the first half. Travis Kelce is the best TE currently in the NFL and considered to be the third best ever to play the game.

      Since all the receivers for the Chiefs are mid at best this year, he’s got some reason to be pissed. One of them, Kadarius Toney, was put on the gameday injury report for the AFCCG as being out for a leg injury and “personal reasons”. He then went public saying his leg was perfectly fine and he had no personal reasons to skip the game… Basically clarifying that the actual reason he wasn’t playing was because he’s ass.

      But Travis Kelce was also being guarded by Fred Warner during the first half who is one of the best linebackers in NFL history.

      It could be a diva moment, sure. But it’s the Super Bowl. Good teams know that you trust your studs. Romo would throw to Dez in double or triple team coverage, knowing he’d come down with it. Peyton Manning would chuck it at Marvin Harrison no matter who was on him. When someone is that good, all you’ve got to do is get the ball in their vicinity. Either they’ll come down with it or they’ll keep the defenders from getting it.

      It’s still stupid to yell at your coach like that and physically push him, but Andy Reid was making a lot of boneheaded decisions in the first. They went into halftime down 10-3. They did change things up during the second half, though. Kelce ended up with 9 receptions for 93 yards while the Chiefs won 25-22 in OT.

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        I understood nothing. But I feel like you know what you are talking about. I heard about that Payton guy.

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          I agree on his decision. Yeah they were down a touchdown and extra point at the end of the first half, but the 49ers tired themselves out while Kelcey was just getting started.

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        10 months ago

        That sounds very unsportsmanlike. He is better than everyone so gets mad when he doesn’t always get to play?!? That’s not ok. That’s real loser behavior.

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          Its not a participation award game. It’s the game of games. It’s not about kelce not getting to play. It’s about the chiefs losing because they’re not utilizing their best weapon. It’s a team sport and you’re watching your team lose because you’re not being used.

          Imagine being on a competitive team project and you’re the best speaker presenting to the state but your teacher decides to let the shy kids try to present, clearly bumbling and being incoherent, letting your opponents out argue every point your peers are making when you clearly can out speak them. You’d be pretty upset with your teacher for getting you to states, you being the reason you’re there, and then once you’re there you’re sidelined.

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        I still don’t understand why he was yelling though. What did the coach do that he was angry about?

        edit: Oh, he wasn’t playing him? Yeah that makes more sense.

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      why is that even vaguely tolerable behavior for a professional sports player / role model?

      From what I’ve seen over the years acting like a complete dick head is just part of the sport.

      They are over paid Neanderthals for the most part.

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      The chiefs fumbled, and that guy thought he should have been in, so they wouldn’t have lost the ball. I believe that he is screaming, “just leave me in the game” like every play.

      Why it’s tolerated, not sure.

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          Let’s hope he doesn’t Icarus the fuck out. It wasn’t even close to his best season. The chiefs are doing this whole villains thing anyway. Maybe it gets them three in a row but I know if you even if you’re just pretending to be a villian you start looking at yourself that way. It’s just not sustainable.

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        He brings in an enormous amount of money for the team and league. Make enough money and you can treat whoever you want, however you want. It’s not morally right, but it’s true.

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        Why it’s tolerated, not sure.

        Andy Reid tolerated it because he knows that the violent psychopaths playing for him are hopped up on a variety of drugs and need to be cut a little slack.

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        10 months ago

        Not enough to buy Bortles Era Jacksonville Jags, much less now when they are somehow much worse.

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          She’s still not rich enough to buy the worst team in the NFL. You’d still need about $5-6B just to get interest.

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            How do teams get into the NFL? Could she buy a non-nfl team and bring it up to NFL standards and then win the Superbowl with it? I’m not asking if it’s realistic, just, you know, curious if it could be attempted like rich guys do in soccer

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              They haven’t had an expansion franchise since 2002 and it’s unlikely it’ll happen any time in the near future. 32 teams is perfectly balanced - each conference has 16 teams and four divisions. Each division has four teams.

              It would also be very expensive.

              You’d need a stadium that met the NFL standards. The average stadium costs about $2B. Fortunately for her (and unfortunately for the rest of us), taxpayers on average pay about $1.2B of that. We’ll be very generous and assume they paid even more or she received a substantial loan that will be paid off otherwise, leaving her with about $250M out of pocket.

              It should be noted that the opposite is more often true for expansion teams, though. Cities don’t want to pay for the stadium because there’s more risk with new teams. They could decide to leave very quickly, the owners might not have the capital to keep the team afloat, etc. The Texans were the last expansion team and nearly all of the cost for their stadium was privately funded.

              Now, the NFL also charges a fee for expansion teams. This mostly has to be a guesstimate because we haven’t seen one in two decades. The Texans paid $700M at the time so we can assume it would be closer to $1.5B now.

              After that, you have the practice facilities and offices. Cities don’t usually cover that. You might be able to get away with using local facilities for a couple of years, but that won’t be enough to actually create a competitive team. A safe low-end estimate for this would be $150M. The Cowboys paid $1.5B for their facilities, but other teams have paid as low as $125M.

              Finally, the last big cost is payroll. This by itself would sink any chance she has.

              The NFL requires all guaranteed contracted salaries to be placed in escrow. I’m not sure where that rule came from, but I can probably guess Al Davis is to blame. A single year’s salary would be $225M for 2023 and around $240M for next season.

              However, most of the big name players have guarantees that would destroy that. The most common is a signing bonus. Teams love them because the salary cap rules would allow them to amortize it over the length of the contract, including “void years”. Your QB would receive about $200M immediately upon signing. The expansion draft picks and early draft picks would be another $300-500M likely. In the end, the salary escrow plus bonuses would be about $500M-1B.

              So assuming everything goes her way, she’d be on the hook for close to $2.5B immediately plus the reoccurring costs.

              It should also be noted that the NFL isn’t really a great way to make money as an owner. It’s really just a long term retirement hobby for billionaires. They could just go invest in companies or whatever, but they buy NFL teams because they like football and it occupies their time. Yeah, they’ll make money, but not as much as they otherwise could. There’s a reason most owners hate the idea of a super-billionaire like Bezos owning a team.

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    10 months ago

    they only meme about her because she is campaigning against trump