TL;DR
- Users who have rooted their phone, have their bootloader unlocked or are using some custom ROMs report that their RCS messages are not being sent, even though RCS shows them as connected.
- The Google Messages app does not show any error messages when blocking RCS messages of these users and does not send the messages out as SMS or MMS either.
- Google famously campaigned for Apple to include RCS messaging in iMessage but is now blocking it for certain Android users.
I think after XMPP, Google Talk, Wave, Hangouts, Allo, etc… people should know better than to adopt a messaging service from Google.
Yes, I know RCS is theoretically an open standard, but if Google can keep me from using it, it effectively belongs to Google.
Seriously. How many more chat apps from Google do we need to learn the lesson?
Theoretically? RCS is not an open standard. It requires a license from GSMA.
It’s worse than that. Carriers have a say as well. For example, Samsung messages works with RCS in some markets but US providers currently lock it out. They only allow Google messages for RCS. Absolutely infuriating.
You’d think people would know better than to adopt anything from google.
XMPP was ok for its time
Google are so needlessly hostile to people that root, what the fuck does sending messages have to do with having elevated permissions on a phone?!
Monopoly is the only thing companies strive for.
Google is probably trying to get around the cardinal rule of network security: you can’t trust the client.
Their RCS client probably doesn’t make sending a huge volume of messages (i.e. spam) easy, and more automation is possible with root. Yes, it’s stupid, but it’s not completely without purpose.
God, it’s like they don’t want RCS to succeed.
More like they need to have everyone use the app so that they can offer “AI Assistant” features through it.
I knew it! I had the sneaking suspicion that this was the case. About a month ago I updated my phone to Android 14 (custom rom) and noticed I started having trouble with RCS after a couple days since the update. I knew I was going to lose the play integrity but whatever. RCS was nice but I will not bend… just pushing me a step further to de-googling my phone. Lol it’s funny how they cry to Apple about supporting RCS but yet refuse to allow third party apps or phones that don’t meet their requirements, pathetic. There should be an encrypted text communication standard that isn’t controlled by one company who can lock you out because you don’t have approved software, that is ridiculous. That being said, I wish Signal was still a SMS app.
You should have De googled a long time ago, they always pull this kind of shit
I agree but there’s 2 apps there is no good alternative for and they are paid, at least one of them I am learning Android studio + Kotlin to recreate it. The other I have found Wx which is OK but besides that there is no good advanced weather radar.
Can you not just acquire the apk?
Yea tried that already, one won’t work at all and one will stop working after sometime. I assume it still has something to do with google services. I have not tried with microg. Either way… I’ll get there to google-free land eventually its a work in progress. Sometimes I do consider just ripping off the band-aid and installing raw lineage os then learn to deal with it from there.
My 6a on GrapheneOS stopped working months ago and I’ve spent hours trying to figure out what I had changed in an attempt to fix it.
Google broke it at their end? For no reason but spite? What cunts.
Glad to see I’m not the only one! Same phone, same OS, same issue here too.
They are indeed some spiteful ass cunts.
Probably for “security reasons”
I’ve disabled it for now. Rooted phone is enormously more valuable to me than RCS that only half works right to begin with.
I was able to get RCS working again yesterday by updating to the latest version of Play Integrity Fix, but if that hadn’t worked, I would have disabled it and then probably switched over to Textra or Yatta for texting since RCS is basically the only thing keeping me on messages for texting.
I have it disabled anyways along with the Carrier Services app. Guess what: my battery life improved dramatically.
google gonna google.
remember when they used to have “don’t be evil” in their company mission statement? i miss that google
I think Magisk has a patch for this now.
Might as well double down and get luckypatcher again too lmao.
Google also won’t roll out RCS to Google Voice. They’re just as shit as everyone else.
Ay yo, wtf
I have a pixel, it defaults to RCS and those do not reliably deliver to my husband, who is on an android Samsung phone. I can’t figure out what the big advantage of RCS is.
They are blocking all of mine because I’m not gonna use their shitty text app
and yet I get crap about complaining about android and rooting it when this shit literally happens, on the regular.
Im sorry, i want to like android, but it’s awful, and genuinely sucks.
Wait… It sucks cause they are actively working to break it. Not because its flawed. Its no different than apples stupid bubbles.
IMO, it sucks because it’s not built to be the platform that people say it is. It can act as the platform people say it is, on top of it’s existing platform, which makes for a pretty messy and unenjoyable experience.
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RCS a decade ago, cool. RCS today? Dead.
WhatsApp is the defacto messaging over data globally. If you live anywhere outside the Murican bubble, SMSs are not used for anything and iMessage isn’t even a thing people with iCrap devices care about. Everyone, on every platform, uses WhatsApp. Governmental services, private companies, and all the people use WhatsApp.
The only text messages SMS I get nowadays are from Americans that don’t understand anything else and American businesses that use them for 2FA which is super insecure and equally stupid.
