Friends don’t let their friends buy HP.
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I think it’s time for an open source 2d printer project, we have open source 3d printers and the technology is much more complex than 2d. Time to put HP to sleep
Patents are prohibiting anyone from developing something like that.
I’m sure there would be workaounds to that, also I’m not selling anything, just sharing a project and list of components. i’m not a lawyer but i’m pretty sure there’s nothing they can do to stop me
I have a brother laser printer that I love. I just fill up a tub with generic toner and it keeps printing for almost a decade now. I’m old and like to print things. I think it’s much easier to read on paper and I’m happier to print out a 150 page book than read it on a Kindle lol. I’ve also broken multiple ereaders commuting on trains but still have all the papers I saved in binders I printed and really enjoyed reading and will last nearly forever.
When HP requires HP Smart account to print, the brand was already dead to me
Also any recommendation for printers?
EDIT: damn, I think I am going to get a Brother Laser Printer in the future
Never had a problem with Brother printers
I mean, they’re printers. So…
But yes, Brother is definitely one of the better options on the market.
I love my Canons, especially the canon laser printer
God forbid I recommended you to buy an HP ever, but it feels like they’ve been awful only in the ink jet section. At least my HP laser printer (283 something) doesn’t require me to have a(n) HP Smart account (I don’t even know how/where to set up one), I’ve had it for ~3-4 years now, and it’s been reliable and trusty ever since. I can imagine they started pulling the same shady shit with the new laser printers, but this one seems to be working as of now. Fingers crossed.
EDIT: Still buy a Brother, I have only heard amazing things about them; just saying it’s not happening everywhere - yet.
the amount of engineering and programming hours spent to make their products worse is just a symptom of how stupid, wasteful decisions are made when there is not enough competition in these industries.
I bought a Canon laser printer 10 years ago. The only thing I’ve needed since then was a single new set of toner. (And a bunch of paper, obviously.)
Even back then it was pretty obvious that ink jets are waste of money and everyone that I knew who had ink jets were just constantly complaining about them.
There are relatively recent refurbished Brother laser printers on NewEgg for under $200.
You can get a used older model on eBay for under $200.
And the chances that used older model will work just fine for you for years to come is high.
My Brother is between 15 and 20 years old, only on its second toner cartridge, and still working like a charm.
There are a lot of options to do color printing for cheap if you only need it very occasionally like most people. The local public library may even offer free color printing.
Man, I thought for a moment you were saying you had a teenage sibling that had was on his second cartridge.
Bruh
HP is in the extortion business now…
Which printer you get depends on the plan you choose. They start at $6.99 per month for 20 pages’ worth of prints and whatever the current HP Envy model is, and go all the way up to a $35.99-a-month affair that gets you an OfficeJet Pro and 700 pages. If you go over your page allotment, HP will add more for a dollar per block of 10–15 pages.
This is 100% a trap for elderly people who reflexively print everything they see on the computer.
Has always been meme
FWIW we have dumb business owners to thank for that.
They’ve been doing this with the Indigo’s for 8+ years that I’m aware of, so probably much longer. And ofc businesses fell for it because just like most cloud shit, nobody can be bothered to calculate actual costs, just fudge stuff and get your bonus/pay rise for pretending to have done something beneficial.
I appreciate the context you added but I think it is important to underline that ultimately we still have hp to thank for this. They didn’t have to be an awful company.
Oh, I’m not denying that they are greedy assholes. But at the same time I feel like we’re in that comic, they saw an terrible opportunity, implemented this shit and were like “no way anyone is going to fall for that”, and “we” allowed them to like “we” seem to do with many other terrible things in this world, and here we are with them laughing away at “our” stupidity.
There seem to be just enough dumb people around to enable assholes like this to exist, which I find sad and disturbing. It’s almost like there is a reason certain groups want people to stay dumb and ban books, ban those who are different from learning etc
Couple of other things about the print stuff; I seriously doubt this even needs to profitable for them in the short term (it likely is), so unless it’s dead on arrival, the longer it keeps going, the more chances this will be the only available solution…perhaps a last ditch effort to milk us dry before printing dies?
And for anyone who comes across this in the future, at best you’re paying 10x per page compared to what medium size business did many years ago, and no you’re not even getting a real service.
There seem to be just enough dumb people around to enable assholes like this to exist
sigh yup! Always was, always will be, it is maddening isn’t it.
We can do this even with all the idiots though, they will fall in line behind good ideas for the same stupid reasons they will fall behind bad ideas.
I can see it being an option for some people. If you print low volume but regularly every month. And you need a printer that always just works. The problem is the monthly limits! The base package is 20 pages per month, just printing out a pdf manual or something would eat that up in a minute. I would want unused prints to be added to next month.
Otherwise it is very similar to how it works for businesses having larger office printers.
Yea I definitely fall into the 20 pages or less a month category. Hell I probably fall into the 20 pages or less a year category. But I’d never add a subscription for something I can just buy out.
I know it’s not necessarily an option for everyone, but the printer at the library always works and costs way less or is free.
And it doesn’t take up space. Like seriously, I haven’t really printed at home since college
Those who see this as an option are not well. They are neglected by the tech literates who could help them do better and the people who understand the value of ownership that could help them be better.
I don’t know what are you talking about. I have a Canon printer is being 10 years since I bought it and its working like new. This is the reason why HP can get away with this idiotic move.
